The WhoDem's hold a get together.

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Kinda funny that no one seems to have thought it worth meriting a thread, but what the hell....



Highlights include:

At the conference, delegates adapted a new constitution, voted for party officers, and attended discussions on universal healthcare, housing, repealing the 8th Amendment and tackling admission policies of diocesan schools.
Mr Donnelly’s departure robbed the party of its highest-profile media performer and left a legacy of personal bitterness. The two remaining TDs, Ms Shortall and Ms Murphy, have not spoken to Mr Donnelly since his resignation.
Social Democrats joint leaders....
I'm surprised they fit Catherine and Roisín's ego's in to the conference center.

Nonetheless, it seems the party has retained cohesion and is moving towards national structures. They may well carve a niche among wealthy liberal types yet. Bad news for the greens.
 


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When I heard the Soc Dems were holding a conference at the National Conference Centre I first thought there'd be thousands of them for a long week end of carousing and singing and drinking.
Instead they had Fintan OToole first thing this morning. I think the Soc Dems are lovely people but they need someone to say to them, they may have missed the boat. They started out attacking the Labour Party and now a year on what have they to say for themselves?
The last 10 months since the election has been a wasted time for them, they never roled out the organisation and we may have an election in 2017, Hmmm!
 

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Just merge with the Labour Party again and get it over with. Democratic Left all over again. Theres only so many middle class luvvies and skinny latte drinking muppets that live in this country.

Message to the movers and shakers give us a real alternative, a Right Wing Party.
 

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Just merge with the Labour Party again and get it over with. Democratic Left all over again. Theres only so many middle class luvvies and skinny latte drinking muppets that live in this country.

Message to the movers and shakers give us a real alternative, a Right Wing Party.
Right wing? Do you even know what that means?
 

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Well this is a pretty horrible and needlessly nasty thread.
Good work 'shinnerbot' .
Kick downwards. Always downwards. Big man.:cool:
 

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When I heard the Soc Dems were holding a conference at the National Conference Centre I first thought there'd be thousands of them for a long week end of carousing and singing and drinking.
Instead they had Fintan OToole first thing this morning. I think the Soc Dems are lovely people but they need someone to say to them, they may have missed the boat. They started out attacking the Labour Party and now a year on what have they to say for themselves?
The last 10 months since the election has been a wasted time for them, they never roled out the organisation and we may have an election in 2017, Hmmm!
Don't tell me Tintin Fool deplored the Americans deciding to elect trump? How dare they?
 

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Don't tell me Tintin Fool deplored the Americans deciding to elect trump? How dare they?
Tintin the Fool is outraged again ?

What is about this time ? Is it bankers who were prrviously lionised by the propertypaper with a news supplement ?
 

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Tintin does great outrage.
Yes. He certainly does. Unless the subject is an advertising revenue provider for the whore of D'Olier Street.

In which case he gets busy bring outraged with somebody else.

Anglo makes a great target/scapegoat because Anglo is out of business.

AIB/BoI get off much lighter.
 

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As far as I can see, the corner stone of Soc Dems manifesto is political and institutional reform, transparency and accountability.

It appears to be genuine and sincere and its leaders have demonstrated high personal integrity and serious commitment to public service; particularly Catherine Murphy.


Not a bad outfit at all.
 

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Another left wing Irish political wing gang searching ambitiously for the road to absurdity.

The oligopolies that ride the wotking stiffs can rest soundly, knowing their racketeering can continue unmolested.

I had hopes that the SocDems would take on the money in this country. Hopes dashed. At the core of Irish politics remains one simple problem - media power. And the DocDems have realised that now.
 

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Another left wing Irish political wing gang searching ambitiously for the road to absurdity.

The oligopolies that ride the wotking stiffs can rest soundly, knowing their racketeering can continue unmolested.

I had hopes that the SocDems would take on the money in this country. Hopes dashed. At the core of Irish politics remains one simple problem - media power. And the DocDems have realised that now.
They are brand spanking new! How is it even possible to be outraged by what they have or haven't done?:)
 

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I would have preferred them to elect a leader, if nothing else to end the cynical commentary on the joint leadership. They have obviously been busy doing the boring but very necessary, nuts and bolts of building up local structures, something Stephen Donnelly was shy of. They have stiff competition for votes and must expand their attraction beyond the liberal, wealthy types as the OP says, and provide an attractive and relevant voice for those who vote or are leaning towards SF, Labour, AAA/PBP and independents. It is hard to know how long the current government and indeed Dail may last, and the SD's would be better served by getting more people elected at local council level and getting established before the next general election campaign but this is unlikely. Time will tell.
 

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Just merge with the Labour Party again and get it over with. Democratic Left all over again. Theres only so many middle class luvvies and skinny latte drinking muppets that live in this country.

Message to the movers and shakers give us a real alternative, a Right Wing Party.
Ye have fine Gael. That's about as right wing as Irish people go. Renua self destructed thanks to Eddie hobbs one trick hatred of all public servants/insatiable urge to get his greedy little paws on our pensions and the God bothering of sister lucinda.
I actually had time for some of their policies but like all things with Irish people if we stray away from the middle too much we go off the bleedin rails. PBP or the I can't believe it's not the socialist workers party are the other extreme with there nationalising Intel and coffee shop shîte.

We are stuck with two types of gombeen county councillor parties (one a tad to right of the other but both in the goldilocks not insane zone) . The shinners who are the natural real left wing in the dail if they would ever just shed the IRA high command from their ranks and move in to the goldilocks zone. Labour is the Foxrock socialist party and the greens are the same but cycle bikes. The SD s who I had high hopes for need to pick a boss and move on. They are coming up with sensible ideas but aren't communicating them properly. The loss of Donnelly is a shame. He is a very clever guy and a consise speaker. He is probably too far to the right for the other two. Ideally I could see him high up in fine Gael or better yet if he could hold his nose he could drag fianna fail kicking and screaming into the light. Unfortunately the healy rae element is strong in fianna fail so that's not gonna happen.
To be honest although we are masters of the fudge I think what is going on in the world these days makes me glad about not having ideological headers in charge
 

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They are brand spanking new! How is it even possible to be outraged by what they have or haven't done?:)
Get the digs in early. Analyser is living proof that if you go hard enough left you arrive on the hard right and don't even realise it. A burn it all and hope for utopia type.

Definitely outside the goldilocks zone
 

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Get the digs in early. Analyser is living proof that if you go hard enough left you arrive on the hard right and don't even realise it. A burn it all and hope for utopia type.

Definitely outside the goldilocks zone
It was amusing listening to the hacks criticising the SD's budget, until we found out that FG's budget figures were utter nonsense in the election campaign. Again, the only party who were prioritising reducing the cost of living. Hopefully, the members will vote for a leader, move on and ramp up the prioritising of getting their message out there.
 


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