There is still hope for Fine Gael

realistic1

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Minister for Education Richard Bruton has recently announced a range of measures to cut the cost of schooling for parents. This is a very welcome move for hard working families.

Only “iron on” or “sew on” crests should be used
All elements of a school uniform should be purchasable from various stores;
Wherever possible, generic rather than branded items should be specified (e.g. uniform, clothing, IT tablets, sports equipment etc.)
Provide parents with a list of all required items and indicate the likely costs of these required items at best value stores
Provide a book rental scheme
Ban the use of workbooks which cannot be reused
Where an exclusive supply arrangement applies, it should be tendered for regularly.

If FG can now tackle the exploitation and waste in Health, housing, immigration and other financial social costs, they may reverse their bad fortunes. Kudos to Bruton on this development.


Schools will have to use iron-on crests and let parents rent books
 


statsman

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About bloody time. The cost of 'free' education is ridiculous. Next up, restore the cuts to capitation.
 

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Realistic is an ironic name to have when posting threads like this
 

Devil Eire

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Billions of taxpayer's money handed over to foreign vulture funds, every asset of the state sold out from under us, squalid deals left, right and centre - I'd have thought they could do better than iron-on school crests to make up for it all...
 

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Yes, there is and always has been hope for Fine Gael.
It's name is Fianna Fail
However for 90 years Fine Gael have largely existed on "vote for us, we are slightly less sh*t and less corrupt than them"
Never more so than in the Kenny era.

Fianna Fail shouldn't even be existence today, give what they did to the country.
The principle reason they are, also has one name.
It's called Kenny.
 

farnaby

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One of the reasons the FG/FF merry-go-round persists is this kind of stuff - doing the boring basics adequately with years of grinding unspectacular policy work behind them.

No-one trusts the Solidarity/PBP/AAA/SW/SJW crowd to do this - it's not part of their hobby.

Difficult to see this as a sign of things to come though, just a sensible small-scale policy that has filtered through the murk.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Billions of taxpayer's money handed over to foreign vulture funds, every asset of the state sold out from under us, squalid deals left, right and centre - I'd have thought they could do better than iron-on school crests to make up for it all...
Wait for the inevitable monopoly on "iron on crests" to be created by Noonan, with charity status.
 

realistic1

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Yes, there is and always has been hope for Fine Gael.
It's name is Fianna Fail
However for 90 years Fine Gael have largely existed on "vote for us, we are slightly less sh*t and less corrupt than them"
Never more so than in the Kenny era.

Fianna Fail shouldn't even be existence today, give what they did to the country.
The principle reason they are, also has one name.
It's called Kenny.
I disagree, the main reason is the Irish Labour party. If Labour had stayed in opposition in 2011, they would have finished FF. Labour allowed FF to be the main opposition, and in doing so made them relevant and an alternative, simple as!
 

realistic1

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Time to remove school fees from private schools.
Next good move from FG would be to remove the tax payers subsidy to Secondary private fee paying school. Why should the taxpayer fund Private industry, I though all neo-cons would agree with this stance.
 

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This is a load of bollix from Bruton - an attempt to appear that he is doing something when actually doing nothing.

Everything Bruton is proposing has already been implemented by large number of schools - indeed many of the schools that still insist on expensive school uniforms are in 'posh' areas. Indeed if he wants schools to run a proper book rental scheme then he has to fund it properly (and order the book companies to make books than don't fall to pieces after a coup,e of weeks)

What Bruton has done is consistently cut the schools capitation payments, forcing more and more schools to look for 'voluntary' contributions from parents.

The INTO pointed out this morning that €100million would result in real free primary education for all - as some others pointed out, less money that the government gives in subsidies to private, for profit, schools, less money than the government spent on the 'conservation grant' and a fraction of the money the government wasted on the Irish Water quango and the installation of water meters.
 

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Minister for Education Richard Bruton has recently announced a range of measures to cut the cost of schooling for parents. This is a very welcome move for hard working families.

Only “iron on” or “sew on” crests should be used
All elements of a school uniform should be purchasable from various stores;
Wherever possible, generic rather than branded items should be specified (e.g. uniform, clothing, IT tablets, sports equipment etc.)

Provide parents with a list of all required items and indicate the likely costs of these required items at best value stores
Provide a book rental scheme
Ban the use of workbooks which cannot be reused
Where an exclusive supply arrangement applies, it should be tendered for regularly.

If FG can now tackle the exploitation and waste in Health, housing, immigration and other financial social costs, they may reverse their bad fortunes. Kudos to Bruton on this development.


Schools will have to use iron-on crests and let parents rent books
This is an excellent idea, long overdue. I'm personally aware of a school requiring purchase at a specific clothing shop, at prices eight times or more what near-identical items would be available in Dunnes or similar. With a couple of kids, the difference could easily be a hit of more than a grand every September.

When queried, the school gave some blather about supporting Irish jobs, though the clothes were not made in Ireland. The trick of having sewn-in crests to make sure nobody tried to use cheaper versions was used. I and many others had a deep suspicion that kickbacks were being made. It would certainly be worth it. Back of the envelope, the shop in question got an excess profit (over the large-store pricing) of over €200k per year.

This should be wound up with a voluntary code of conduct for all schools that take public money, and including requirements to hire and admit pupils without regard to religion or race, and to conduct religious classes at a time thta facilitates those who want to opt-out to do so.
 

Sister Mercedes

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€100million would result in real free primary education for all
Instead it will be used to pay tax free lump sums to 1,000 teachers.

Ironic much that PS bolshies who get so animated about tax deductions for private education have no qualms at all about 100% tax deductions for PS lump sums.
 

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I think the credibility of Teacher unions is similar to that of the Garda associations.:lol:
 


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