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They love him, but does Obama love black Americans?


Houyhnhnm

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In this article the Guardian's Gary Younge argues the presidency of Barack Obama has done little for American blacks economically. Psychologically, however, things have never been better. Younge ascribes this to the fact that Obama is not a product of the black community and therefore is incapable of either empathising or identifying with the needs of the average black American.

Barack Obama and the paradox behind his African American support base | Gary Younge | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Younge is correct insofar as, economically speaking, blacks are worse off after four years of Obama, but the primary reason he cites for this - that Obama doesn't fight hard enough for black America - is nonsense.

First, the reason for poor economic prospects is America has experienced the largest economic collapse since the 1930s, but this was not Obama's fault. And, thanks primarily to actions to stabilise the economy taken by his administration, things are starting to turn around. Jobs are being created once more; employment prospects are beginning to improve for all socio-economic groups.

Secondly, the executive branch is at the mercy of congress when it comes to spending money on housing, social security and similar programmes which massively influence poverty rates, never mind creating something new to help the poor. Republican congressmen and congresswomen, fearful of being challenged by well-funded Tea Party candidates in their next primaries, refuse to compromise with the White House over such banalities as raising the debt ceiling (which covers already agreed upon spending). Agreement on new government spending on social programmes is a non-runner.

And this is how things will proceed. After the election the fiscal cliff looms large. If a deal can't be completed the federal government is going to shrink fast, with automatic cuts which will slash economic growth by four percent and put two million out of work. If Mr Younge thinks poverty amongst blacks is high now, he's in for a shock with what's to come. Unless the Democrats take congress, Obama's presidency will indeed be defined by black poverty, but not for lack of trying.
 

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In this article the Guardian's Gary Younge argues the presidency of Barack Obama has done little for American blacks economically. Psychologically, however, things have never been better. Younge ascribes this to the fact that Obama is not a product of the black community and therefore is incapable of either empathising or identifying with the needs of the average black American.
The sun will freeze over before blacks abandon Barack Obama, even if it turned out he liked to eat black infants for breakfast.

As the excellent Water E. Williams has said:

"Black support of politicians who have done little or nothing for their ordinary constituents is by no means unusual. Blacks are chief executives of major cities, such as Philadelphia, Detroit, Washington, Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, New Orleans, Oakland, Newark, Cleveland and Cincinnati. In most of these cities, the chief of police, the superintendent of schools and other high executives are black. But in these cities, black people, like no other sector of our population, suffer from the highest rates of homicides, assaults, robberies and shootings. Black high-school dropout rates in these cities are the highest in the nation. Even if a black youngster manages to graduate from high school, his reading, writing and computational proficiency is likely to be equivalent to that of a white seventh- or eighth-grader. That's even with school budgets per student being among the highest in the nation...

Black people would not accept excuses upon excuses and vote to re-elect decade after decade any white politician, especially a Republican politician, to office who had the failed records of our big-city mayors. What that suggests about black people is not very flattering".

Black and White Standards by Walter E. Williams
 
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Here in Chicago, Jessie Jackson jr hasn't shown up for work in months being diagnosed as being bi-polar among other things yet he's considered a shoe in to retain his seat.
Ya gotta love 'Chicago style' politics.
 

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And this is how things will proceed. After the election the fiscal cliff looms large. If a deal can't be completed the federal government is going to shrink fast, with automatic cuts which will slash economic growth by four percent and put two million out of work..
Yes, but it will also mean a dramatic in the size of the defence budget and closure of defence plants. Congressmen with defence industry factories in their constituency are already under pressure to cave or face a massive (1) loss of election funding and (2) a massive backlash from their constituents who will not be pandered to with ideological hair-splitting.

It will also mean the end of the Bush tax cuts with a corresponding rise in Federal revenues. But Obama can announce that faced with a choice between paying the Army and paying Medicare, he had to choose the Army and people who need Medicare expenses should write to their Congressmen. Or that he will pay Medicare, but the he cannot pay the Army whose soldiers are in the front lines.

The fiscal cliff cuts both ways. The Republicans gambled that by January 20013, they would be in the White House. Now it looks like it will be President Obama, so he has the advantage to let the fiscal cliff hurt the Republicans as badly as possibly. Shutting down the Government has never worked out well for the Republicans.

What's the betting there will be a Grand Compromise?
 

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Here in Chicago, Jessie Jackson jr hasn't shown up for work in months being diagnosed as being bi-polar among other things yet he's considered a shoe in to retain his seat.
Ya gotta love 'Chicago style' politics.
Its one messed up city. At least you have the Drake, which is one of my favorite hotels on the planet.

Are the Nation of Islam guys still doing police work? How does the average white guy see this? How have Obama's ties to that crook Tony Rezko gone over with regular folk?
 
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Maybe if African-American illegitimacy rates exceed 80% then that aspect will be taken seriously.

Also African-Americans need to vigorously oppose illegal immigration; they are US citizens and illegal aliens are not.

I think that the future for Blacks in the USA is extremely bleak.

They should listen to Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, even Larry Elder, and ignore the likes of Jackson and Sharpton.
 

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Yes, but it will also mean a dramatic in the size of the defence budget and closure of defence plants. Congressmen with defence industry factories in their constituency are already under pressure to cave or face a massive (1) loss of election funding and (2) a massive backlash from their constituents who will not be pandered to with ideological hair-splitting.

It will also mean the end of the Bush tax cuts with a corresponding rise in Federal revenues. But Obama can announce that faced with a choice between paying the Army and paying Medicare, he had to choose the Army and people who need Medicare expenses should write to their Congressmen. Or that he will pay Medicare, but the he cannot pay the Army whose soldiers are in the front lines.

The fiscal cliff cuts both ways. The Republicans gambled that by January 20013, they would be in the White House. Now it looks like it will be President Obama, so he has the advantage to let the fiscal cliff hurt the Republicans as badly as possibly. Shutting down the Government has never worked out well for the Republicans.

What's the betting there will be a Grand Compromise?
I think a lot of it will come down to what are the numbers this week. If Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the electoral college to Obama, the Republicans will not abandon the theatrics that have led to the fiscal cliff. Compromise would be out the window.

But if Obama is re-elected with a large majority the GOP will be expected to enter a period of soul searching. This might result in them beginning to engage in something resembling politics to protect the defence contractor jobs in their districts.
 

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Maybe if African-American illegitimacy rates exceed 80% then that aspect will be taken seriously.

Also African-Americans need to vigorously oppose illegal immigration; they are US citizens and illegal aliens are not.

I think that the future for Blacks in the USA is extremely bleak.

They should listen to Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, even Larry Elder, and ignore the likes of Jackson and Sharpton.
Also African-Americans need to vigorously oppose illegal immigration

OMG - they are Racists then? :shock:

I do hope nobody tells Rosanna about this :?

er sorry delete that last bit....

I DO hope somebody tells Rosanna about this!:p
 

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Here in Chicago, Jessie Jackson jr hasn't shown up for work in months being diagnosed as being bi-polar among other things yet he's considered a shoe in to retain his seat.
Ya gotta love 'Chicago style' politics.

Let's not forget Charlie Rangel the Harlem Congressman and poster boy for term limits, gets reelected every time.
 
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Blacks, some blacks, in the US are suffering from the do-gooders' belief that the State can right any wrong.
 

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Are the Nation of Islam guys still doing police work? How does the average white guy see this? How have Obama's ties to that crook Tony Rezko gone over with regular folk?
I've never seen Nation of Islam guys doing police work.
I've seen them act as bodyguards for Farakan (sp?)



As far as the average white guy goes, I think they are very similar to your average black guy over here.
Very body is full of fear, fear of each other, fear of blacks, fear of whites, fear of Mexicans, fear of Jews, fear of foreigners, just plain fear of everything.
Your average American is sold a bill of goods each and every day, and that commodity is fear.
The papers, the tv and the internet are all laden with the greatest commodity of all, fear.
If you don't believe me, take a look at the size of our police forces, jails etc and above all our expenditure on our armed forces.
 

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What percentage of African-American kids are brought up in single parent families, is it around 65-70%, imagine if that rate was reduced to the national average in America which is around 25%, there would be a lot less black kids growing up in poverty plus of course they would have daddy playing an important role in their lives. If 65-70% of non hispanic white kids where brought up in single parent families in America imagine what thye reaction would be?
 
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He married one didn't he!? :)
 
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What percentage of African-American kids are brought up in single parent families, is it around 65-70%, imagine if that rate was reduced to the national average in America which is around 25%, there would be a lot less black kids growing up in poverty plus of course they would have daddy playing an important role in their roles.
If you wrote in the Irish Times what you just wrote here, you could well end up in court, for inciting 'hatred'; of course, that it is true matters not!
 

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If you wrote in the Irish Times what you just wrote here, you could well end up in court, for inciting 'hatred'; of course, that it is true matters not!
I know, I know supporting the nuclear family as the best environment in which to rear children in the 21st century is inciting "hatred"...lol, well according to people who believe in cultural marxism it is inciting hatred, how dare I can up with practical, conservative policies as a way of reducing child poverty amongst African-american kids.
 

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Worse problems are in the future, thank you Houyhnhnm made such a briefly concerning pact of African politics,

however the cluest theory is how fast white nation decline in usa.
Non-white births outnumber white births for the first time in US - Telegraph

the base facts saying: republicans is a few part of congress, the business they owned not involved Middleast, it's a traditional conservative families with appropriete style of living.

What ever us politics will do it couldn't stop the black people growth, Germany shares a bit islam population but since eighties simply these people wouldn't became a multicoloured, for a reason of faith.

Russia worse get invade of huge number of Cauqasians who merely and in time will abuse the white origins.

huh, soul searching sounds a quite soft.
 
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