Actually, post-Vatican II, he implemented the reforms (though perhaps ambivalent about them), including on ecumenism. He was even quoted as saying that some non-Catholic Christians had more interesting things to say about religion than many Catholic clerics.Oh, I wouldn't go that far -
his claim that Protestants, Jews, Masons and communists were agents of Satan pre-dates 1948
How was that?He was a horrible controlling power freak who was part of an organisation that from what I can see has little to do with basic Christian teachings , all the RC church is interested in is control and power. It's a tragedy for this country that the politicians bowed so low to the church , it set Ireland back years.
I know - hence my earlier post. Fascinating man.Actually, post-Vatican II, he implemented the reforms (though perhaps ambivalent about them), including on ecumenism. He was even quoted as saying that some non-Catholic Christians had more interesting things to say about religion than many Catholic clerics.
Originally Posted by toxic avenger
Actually, post-Vatican II, he implemented the reforms (though perhaps ambivalent about them), including on ecumenism. He was even quoted as saying that some non-Catholic Christians had more interesting things to say about religion than many Catholic clerics.
Again from the Wikipedia article on the ArchbishopI know - hence my earlier post. Fascinating man.
You might well be right but I would like assurrance that McQuaid Mk2 won't go; frightening TD's into ignoring our Supreme Court; demanding continued control of our schools and some hospitals; banning imaginary condoms. So if he/she limits their influence to dominating the catholic church it would be an interesting development.The church needs somebody with McQuaid's authority and persona to knock it in line. The bishops from the top down have shown themselves only of sitting on their hands.
He did great work by keeping a portion of money given in collections for his own personal charties. It's easy to be charitable with other people's money, or in this case other parishes.How was that?
Surely works of Charity are part and parcel of what Christianity is all about?
No one can deny that he did great work there
Didn't he also refuse to sit beside the Protestant Archbishop at a service to mark Ecumenical Week or something similar?Again from the Wikipedia article on the Archbishop
John Charles McQuaid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archbishop McQuaid implemented the decrees of Vatican II – including the ecumenical decrees – out of a sense of loyalty to his Church. However he did warm somewhat to non-Catholics, especially those whose attitudes reflected some aspect of his own character. In his autobiography, his Holy Ghost confrere Father Michael O'Carroll records this exchange with the Archbishop:
Father O'Carroll: Well, Your Grace, if you want my honest opinion, I would prefer to hear some Protestants speaking about our religion than certain Catholic priests. I would certainly prefer Malcolm Muggeridge to some of them.
Archbishop McQuaid: Oh, I would agree with you, Father. Did you read his review in last Sunday's Observer of a new history of monasticism? I learned the last sentence by heart. I shall quote it: "The early monastic founders asked everything of their followers and they got everything; the moderns ask little and they get nothing."
Presumably because he is politically incorrect in this day and age. Incidentally there is an account by Colum Kennny, Associate Professor of Communications at Dublin City University of a meeting he had with the Archbishop as a teenager in the 1960s. Although his attitude to McQuaid is generally hostile, he does provides this revealing vignette:There used to be an Archbishop Mc Quaid National School in Loughlinstown ( South County Dublin) but the name was dropped a few years back. Anyone know why this might be/
I mentioned that we are living in an Age of Compensation and Victimhood. We are also living in an age where every Teacher, Doctor, Nurse or Social Worker who deals with young people has to take special precautions against being falsley accused of child abuse (e.g.they can never be alone with a child and a teacher is forbidden to hug a distressed child). Archbishop McQuaid did not create this type of society - it was in fact the people who falsely accused him (including liberal icon Dr Noel Browne).Apart from the proven Paedophiles was McQuaid the most reviled Catholic clergy man in Ireland ever? Perhaps only the effective number 2 to him at the time Bishop Michael Browne of Galway a most disgusting animal from Mayo imposed upon an urban people for about 40 years as their bishop and virtually universally reviled by his flock, to be replaced by Jockey boy Casey, could hold a candle to him in this regard!
Even knowing the Catholic church, I cannot see McQuaid or Browne ever being officially canonised!
The liberal parents who sent their kids to that particular primary school were probably horrifiedThere used to be an Archbishop Mc Quaid National School in Loughlinstown ( South County Dublin) but the name was dropped a few years back. Anyone know why this might be/
I came across the fellow after he refused to release a report, that he himself commissioned, into child abuse and neglect in Artane Industrial School. He was in possession of the report for over 11 years before he passed away. It took 47 years for the report to be made public. Mc Quaid could have prevented the abuse of hundreds of innocent children. I for one will not be meeting him in Heaven. He played politics with religion. The God Squad | Category | FATHER MOORE: PRIVATE REPORT ON ARTANE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLGone but not forgotten.
Hope he is at peace but I can't say that I miss the fellow at all!