Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era - is Xi the new Mao?

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Xi Jinping has been consecrated as China’s most powerful leader since Mao Zedong after a new body of political thought carrying his name was added to the Communist party’s constitution.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/24/xi-jinping-mao-thought-on-socialism-china-constitution

President Xi Jinping the new Mao?

The affable but steely Leader of Communist China has now stamped his Authority on the 19th Party Congress with a tract entitled Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era which has been incorporated into the Party's Constitution.

I'm sure it will be a best seller and all aspiring Party Cadres will studiously absorb its contents... petunia

But the worry is that Xi has now acquired a taste for Power that he will be reluctant to let out of his grasp come the 20th Congress in 5 years time.

The Party will be wary of that. Notwithstanding the respect and awe given to Chairman Mao the Party Faithful don't want a repeat performance of that Era.

Will Xi toddle off into the Golden Sunset in 2022 or will he impose his Will on the less enthusiastic and go for Broke....?
 


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A good dose of Cultural Revolution Mark II and another Great Leap Backwards would sort them all out. They wouldn't be bothering the neighbours then. Or have a problem with over-population,
 

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Communist in name only it actually functions as a capitalist state with an authoritarian government a far cry from Mao's policies.
 

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Is Xi the next bloke who will oversee the deaths of 45 million?

Is catalpast the next James Colescott?

Is there ANY non white grouping or person you won’t make a lazy thread about? There’s plenty to be critical of Xi over. There’s nothing to suggest he’s going to start offing millions. Unless you’re a frothing racist who thinks there’s something inherently shifty about any non white.
 

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Communist in name only it actually functions as a capitalist state with an authoritarian government a far cry from Mao's policies.
Yes - Mao's regime functioned as a bureaucratised command economy with an authoritarian government.
 

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Will this effect the price of the iPhone etc?
 

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Is Xi the next bloke who will oversee the deaths of 45 million?

Is catalpast the next James Colescott?

Is there ANY non white grouping or person you won’t make a lazy thread about? There’s plenty to be critical of Xi over. There’s nothing to suggest he’s going to start offing millions. Unless you’re a frothing racist who thinks there’s something inherently shifty about any non white.
Is the Guardian newspaper 'Racist' enough for you?

Do grow up a bit!:roll:
 

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Yes - Mao's regime functioned as a bureaucratised command economy with an authoritarian government.
He also ruled with an Iron Hand and ruthlessly crushed all opposition Internal and External

OK times were tough and weeping willows didn't last long

But no one wants another Old Style Dictator

Will Xi be a New Style 1?

Time will tell....
 

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President Xi Jinping the new Mao?
No. But he may well be the leader who guides China through its next phase: Its full emergence as a super-power to rival the United States.

But the worry is that Xi has now acquired a taste for Power that he will be reluctant to let out of his grasp come the 20th Congress in 5 years time.
Why is that a particular worry for Xi? Don't all leaders acquire a taste for power? Congress will remain in his grasp for as long as he continues to deliver economic growth and international prestige for the Chinese.
 

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All China has is a modernised version of a dynasty.
It's really not. I travel there quite a bit. It doesn't feel that way. It feels like a country and a people impatient to re-assume their position a leading world power.
 

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Yes - Mao's regime functioned as a bureaucratised command economy with an authoritarian government.
I always thought of it more as open prison above ground and a mass grave beneath it.
 

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All China has is a modernised version of a dynasty.
Not really - it does have some level of democratic accountability and approval from Party Members

But one cant help noticing that the concept of Emperor as Ruler hasn't exactly quite being removed from the Chinese psyche

- after being ingrained in the minds of the Chinese People for thousands of years....
 

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It's really not. I travel there quite a bit. It doesn't feel that way. It feels like a country and a people impatient to re-assume their position a leading world power.
They were never a World Power

- more a Closed Shop.

They are a wannabee 1
 

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concept of Emperor as Ruler
You are misinterpreting it. Talking in as broad strokes as is necessary when talking about 1.4bn people, the Chinese don't believe a country and culture such as theirs could be managed properly in a multi-party democracy. They are collectivist in culture in a way that would puzzle most Westerners and believe the only way to achieve necessary progress is by a level of authoritarianism unpalatable to Western mores. They do not view the president as an emperor whom they should grovel before.
 

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To say yer man is "Eurocentric" is to put it mildly,

China was the world’s leader in technical innovations in textile manufacturing, seven centuries before Britain ’s 18th century “textile revolution”.

China was the leading trading nation, with long distance trade reaching most of Southern Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Europe . China’s ‘agricultural revolution’ and productivity surpassed the West down to the 18th century.

Its innovations in the production of paper, book printing, firearms and tools led to a manufacturing superpower whose goods were transported throughout the world by the most advanced navigational system.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-rise-fall-and-re-emergence-as-a-global-power/29644
 

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Mao was a proper lunatic and a genocidal maniac, probably had a lot of mental problems (not that any of that stops him being hero to many on the far left). Look Xi is a communist like all communists he want power and will do anything to maintain that power including mowing his own people down in droves if necessary or killing them in what ever way is the most efficient if and when he needs to.

Communism with Chinese characteristics is the adoption of the only workable economic model i.e capitalism while maintain or trying to maintain control through a one party system and in Chinese politicians case get horrendously wealth at the same time.

Xi will probably stay on, lots of paths for him to do so he could simply change the rules looks like he has the sway to do that, or give up most of the titles but do a Jiang Zemin on it and just keep the central military commission title there for giving him command f the military and a reversion to the paramount leader system. Or he could give up the state titles and keep the party titles though the Chinese since 1991 have ben fairly paranoid about empowering state institutions in case they rebelled against the party like Yeltsin did against Gorbachev. Lots of people are into American politics but if you want to see a real world house of cards system in motion china is the place to watch.


This is a pretty good article and the site itself does a lot of interesting pieces on china and Chinese politics.
What to Watch at China
 

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A good dose of Cultural Revolution Mark II and another Great Leap Backwards would sort them all out. They wouldn't be bothering the neighbours then. Or have a problem with over-population,
The bothering neighbours might sort out the overpopulation bit though
 


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