Tightening the Rules on Learner Drivers alone in vehicles

Spirit Of Newgrange

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And so it is mooted that the owner of the vehicle faces a 2,000 quid fine or a ( never to be enforced ? ) prison sentence. Seems like a good step for road safety. Statistics show that the young and inexperienced drivers, especially young men, are pretty risky behind the wheel of a vehicle. Any thoughts ?


Safer roads = less deaths and cheaper car insurance, in theory.

I believe that in the UK, when somebody is alone on a learner driving licence, they are technically also uninsured. Somebody please clarify if the UK are Ireland are different in this respect.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-car-owners-who-permit-learner-drivers-to-use-their-vehicles-unaccompanied-face-prison-or-2000-fine-36300225.html
 
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Jaysus, that young girl in the photo in the Indo is taking the news quare hard.
 

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Does this mean that child benefit will be payable to all children, regardless of age?
 

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Isn't it already illegal for learner driver to drive unaccompanied?

Why can we not enforce the laws we already have and what makes anyone thionk this new version will make the slightest bit of difference?

More attention seeking from Lord Ross.
 

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This seems like an unfair approach. There are thousands of people who can't just drive with a friend or parent or relative to get experience. Speed apps might be needed. A follow-up test to verify competency on motorway etc would be better solution.
 

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Isn't it already illegal for learner driver to drive unaccompanied?

Why can we not enforce the laws we already have and what makes anyone thionk this new version will make the slightest bit of difference?
Cause that would mean the Gardai have to DO something .....
 

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This seems like an unfair approach. There are thousands of people who can't just drive with a friend or parent or relative to get experience. Speed apps might be needed. A follow-up test to verify competency on motorway etc would be better solution.
If you are a Learner... dont drive unaccompanied... simples..
 

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This seems like an unfair approach. There are thousands of people who can't just drive with a friend or parent or relative to get experience. Speed apps might be needed. A follow-up test to verify competency on motorway etc would be better solution.
Then drive with an instructor and do the test so you can drive unaccompanied. If you're driving unaccompanied on a provisional licence (or whatever it's called now) then you're driving without a licence and possibly without insurance.
 
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Isn't it already illegal for learner driver to drive unaccompanied?

Why can we not enforce the laws we already have and what makes anyone thionk this new version will make the slightest bit of difference?

More attention seeking from Lord Ross.
You sound like one of them 2nd Amendment/NRA loons!

petunia
 

Spirit Of Newgrange

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Cause that would mean the Gardai have to DO something .....
it is my observation, that rules involving financial penalties are often enforced with greater enthusiasm.
 

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cool..I'm looking forward to my insurance costs still continuing to rise as a result of this timely action...
 

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Have the Healy-Raes issued a statement yet on the detrimental effect the proposed new law will have on learner drivers in Kerry?
 

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Have the Healy-Raes issued a statement yet on the detrimental effect the proposed new law will have on learner drivers in Kerry?
ALL drivers in Kerry are learner drivers....ever see them outside of their natural environment????.. JAYSUUUUSS
 

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The changes make sense but it wouldn’t be needed if the current rules were enforced.

Even with the new permit system it is still possible to drive around for years having never actually sat a test or having done the required 12 lessons with a qualified instructor.

For too long the guards been have to lax on learner drivers.
 

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In my opinion the whole L system should be scrapped.
Keep things in order.

1. Take lessons, both theory and practice, drive 20-30 hours with the instructor.
2. Pass a test.
3. Get license, drive on N plate for 2 years.
 

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The changes make sense but it wouldn’t be needed if the current rules were enforced.

Even with the new permit system it is still possible to drive around for years having never actually sat a test or having done the required 12 lessons with a qualified instructor.

For too long the guards been have to lax on learner drivers.
I thought a provisional licence (if it still exists) was only valid for two years and then you had to do a driving test?
 

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The present situation has been allowed to persist for too long. The practice of driving unaccompanied is rampant and isn't going to stop over night. An even bigger problem is young drivers who (say they) can't afford to pay the massive premiums. My own daughter was quoted 2,900 recently. The usual FG (and p.ie) reaction to these problems is like Ross, just to increase the penalties. How imaginative. This country is a sh!t hole for the young generally, and for immigrants in particular, who have to deal with these problems directly.
 


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