Tonight with Vincent Browne 06/12/10

Abaddon

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Meh, I've a soft spot for any tech stuff. I have to deal with techno illiterates like Vinne most weeks at work. It doesn't bother me that they are trying new stuff out.
 


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So bang goes the corrupt deals whereby you have to pay 600 euro to have your meter turned at a rightangle to its present position or moved two meters(yards?). What a loss to Irish society that'll be.
What you think private co. won't get up to those type of shenanigans?
 

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What you think private co. won't get up to those type of shenanigans?
Of course they'll try, but privatised they'll have to attempt to get these ripoff prices as part of a cartel arrangement and be subject to prosecution if caught whereas now these prices are cast in stone by government legislation.
 

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Sometimes on shows simple points just aren't made, which leads to arguments made of sand look like good arguments.

the Agrument made of sand being: 'only way forward' 'no option' ************************etalk

The simple point being:

We got enough money borrowed to go to the middle of next year and 20 billion in pension reserves to go further, so plenty of time to trash out a new government and strategy

.....but sure its not possible the IMF and EU need this more than us, of course not..
 

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This budget and the IMF 'It has to be done' 'deal' is a total stitch up.
The jokers on VB are cheerleading this IMF 'deal' now, Pathetic.
But Vincent Browne is a "man of the people".

He wouldn't allow that message go unchallenged.

Oh. He did challenge.

And lost.

Surprised?
 

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So bang goes the corrupt deals whereby you have to pay 600 euro to have your meter turned at a rightangle to its present position or moved two meters(yards?). What a loss to Irish society that'll be.
Just because it's run like that, at the moment, doesn't mean it has to be privatised to change it.

It makes no sense to privatise these companies where profits go to private shareholders when the public are all ready the true shareholders. Look at the state of Eircom since its been privatised. Any money made by the company is sucked out and sod all investment in infrastructure.

Privatisation just makes rich people richer at the expense of the public.
 

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Of course they'll try, but privatised they'll have to attempt to get these ripoff prices as part of a cartel arrangement and be subject to prosecution if caught whereas now these prices are cast in stone by government legislation.
'subject to prosecution if caught ........'

Ah wes, have you forgot this is Ireland a brown envelope to the right politician an hey presto, meanwhile we are bereft of natural resources and assets.
 

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So.

Browne had a "former assistant director of the IMF" on "his" panel.

And he didn't ask why Ireland is borrowing €65bn to bail out German banks?

Nice job Vincent.

How's politico.ie going?
 

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But Vincent Browne is a "man of the people".

He wouldn't allow that message go unchallenged.

Oh. He did challenge.

And lost.

Surprised?
I am not surprised the panel did not support VB's position.
The panel are not exactly 'Men/Women of the people' now are they?
 

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Why do people keep saying "we", when they really should say "they"(Fianna Fáil)?

As in: "we made a mess of the economy", when it should be "they made a mess of the economy".
 

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bobby - what's worse is that some of the IMFs policies are FG policies. FG have wanted to sell off semi state companies for years now. When they get into government they'll automatically claim that their hands are tied and that they have to sell Collite, ESB, Board Gáis and whats left of our stake in Aer lingus.

FG and LAB have never intended to prevent this budget going through.
FG said only a couple of weeks ago that they don't think we should sell our stake in Aer Lingus. As for Coillte, Bord Gais, ESB, etc - they've said they'd sell non-strategic State assets - and only Coillte really falls into that category.
 

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bobby - what's worse is that some of the IMFs policies are FG policies. FG have wanted to sell off semi state companies for years now. When they get into government they'll automatically claim that their hands are tied and that they have to sell Collite, ESB, Board Gáis and whats left of our stake in Aer lingus.

FG and LAB have never intended to prevent this budget going through.
Is SF going to take this govt to court as regards the bail out being unconstitutional?
 

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FG said only a couple of weeks ago that they don't think we should sell our stake in Aer Lingus. As for Coillte, Bord Gais, ESB, etc - they've said they'd sell non-strategic State assets - and only Coillte really falls into that category.
Coillte is a profitable company. I see no reason to sell it to a private company so that they can then take the profit from it when that very same profit would be better off going into this country's pocket.

What advantage is there in selling Coillte?
 

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Coillte is a profitable company. I see no reason to sell it to a private company QUOTE]

The same reason you would sell any profitable company.

To capitalise the potential earnings, transfer risk and put the money in the bank.
 


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