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Transcending the Human Ego

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The human ego has been defined as "a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance" and "an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others". There are a myriad of other definitions, and most people have a general, common sense, definition of what egotism is, and it is this egotism and its most extreme and unattractive manifestation "egomania" that I wish to focus upon.

Some people are more egotistical than others i.e. excessively conceited or absorbed in themselves and their own sense of self worth and self importance, and consequently tend to manifest a supercilious demeanour. The term "egomaniac" has been defined as "obsessive egotism or self-centredness" and "psychologically abnormal egotism". You'll experience egomaniacs on the internet as well as in real life, as these individual's have access to computers and online fora.

Egomania and it's closest cousin megalomania are responsible for a lot of human conflict, and the egomaniac's ego, tending to be much larger than that of the average individual, predisposes them to imposing their world view upon others, in the belief that only their word view is correct.

The human ego represents the lower self; our wants, desires, base impulses, dislikes, hatreds, animosities and so on. It also fuels our aspirations, and can be used as a positive force as well as a motivator of malice. The higher self is man risen above his unattractive lower self ego to an elevated and wiser state of benevolent self consciousness.

We reach the higher self when we view the situation from the other person's perspective (empathy). We access the higher self when we look back upon past actions and realise that we were wrong, and apologise. We become our higher selves when we realise that selfish lower self egotism is a barrier to personal self development and human evolution, and that to transcend the human ego is to transcend petty animosities, selfishness and greed, and the human predisposition to obtain power and control others.

Letting go of the human ego doesn't mean letting go of yourself. It means abandoning that part of yourself which compels you to act in a selfish, egotistical and self serving manner, instead of acting in the selfless and philanthropic interests of others. However, beware of the phony egotistical altruists, who nurture their egos by being seen to help others so as to gain a position of occupational and/or social status within an organisation and/or community. Egomaniacs are consumed and controlled by their own gargantuan egos, and the most disturbing part is that many of them are not even aware of the internal influence of which they are under.

Most egomaniacs are control freaks who attempt to control others, and they do it to feed the ego's natural predilection for power, status, dominance and control. Yet many of these egomaniacs are chronically insecure individuals, who control others out of a fear of being controlled. To transcend the human ego is to rise above it and control it, and not allow yourself to be controlled by it. To transcend the ego is to self liberate. If you find yourself being controlled by an egomaniac, one reflex response is to annihilate. Many people have found themselves in court and consequently in prison after exploding after many years of being controlled by an egomaniac.

To rise above our own ego and that of others is to live free of this strangulating influence. The ego is the driving force of a lot of positive human endeavour, but it is also the ultimate driving force of human conflict, destruction and ultimately death. Salvage yourself from the self destructive propensity of the human ego, and by learning to transcend its periodic impulse.

Go raibh maith agat le haghaidh éisteachta.
 


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The human ego has been defined as "a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance" and "an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others". There are a myriad of other definitions, and most people have a general, common sense, definition of what egotism is, and it is this egotism and its most extreme and unattractive manifestation "egomania" that I wish to focus upon.

Some people are more egotistical than others i.e. excessively conceited or absorbed in themselves and their own sense of self worth and self importance, and consequently tend to manifest a supercilious demeanour. The term "egomaniac" has been defined as "obsessive egotism or self-centredness" and "psychologically abnormal egotism". You'll experience egomaniacs on the internet as well as in real life, as these individual's have access to computers and online fora.

Egomania and it's closest cousin megalomania are responsible for a lot of human conflict, and the egomaniac's ego, tending to be much larger than that of the average individual, predisposes them to imposing their world view upon others, in the belief that only their word view is correct.

The human ego represents the lower self; our wants, desires, base impulses, dislikes, hatreds, animosities and so on. It also fuels our aspirations, and can be used as a positive force as well as a motivator of malice. The higher self is man risen above his unattractive lower self ego to an elevated and wiser state of benevolent self consciousness.

We reach the higher self when we view the situation from the other person's perspective (empathy). We access the higher self when we look back upon past actions and realise that we were wrong, and apologise. We become our higher selves when we realise that selfish lower self egotism is a barrier to personal self development and human evolution, and that to transcend the human ego is to transcend petty animosities, selfishness and greed, and the human predisposition to obtain power and control others.

Letting go of the human ego doesn't mean letting go of yourself. It means abandoning that part of yourself which compels you to act in a selfish, egotistical and self serving manner, instead of acting in the selfless and philanthropic interests of others. However, beware of the phony egotistical altruists, who nurture their egos by being seen to help others so as to gain a position of occupational and/or social status within an organisation and/or community. Egomaniacs are consumed and controlled by their own gargantuan egos, and the most disturbing part is that many of them are not even aware of the internal influence of which they are under.

Most egomaniacs are control freaks who attempt to control others, and they do it to feed the ego's natural predilection for power, status, dominance and control. Yet many of these egomaniacs are chronically insecure individuals, who control others out of a fear of being controlled. To transcend the human ego is to rise above it and control it, and not allow yourself to be controlled by it. To transcend the ego is to self liberate. If you find yourself being controlled by an egomaniac, one reflex response is to annihilate. Many people have found themselves in court and consequently in prison after exploding after many years of being controlled by an egomaniac.

To rise above our own ego and that of others is to live free of this strangulating influence. The ego is the driving force of a lot of positive human endeavour, but it is also the ultimate driving force of human conflict, destruction and ultimately death. Salvage yourself from the self destructive propensity of the human ego, and by learning to transcend its periodic impulse.

Go raibh maith agat le haghaidh éisteachta.
I hate being pedantic about such a well-written OP that contains much positivity and thoughtful concepts of higher-functioning, but, in Freudian terms, "our wants, desires, base impulses, dislikes, hatreds, animosities" would mostly stem from the Id rather than the Ego.
 

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I think the most anyone can hope for is to experience moments of it. Some secular people seems to be in favour of parts of Buddhism to achieve this. could be universally applied, not sure, would someone with an IQ of 80 be even capable of grasping the idea?
 

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I hate being pedantic about such a well-written OP that contains much positivity and thoughtful concepts of higher-functioning, but, in Freudian terms, "our wants, desires, base impulses, dislikes, hatreds, animosities" would mostly stem from the Id rather than the Ego.
I've studied Freud (aka Fraud) in some depth and detail, and was going to offer a Freudian definition of ego at the outset, but for the layman the ego's definition is not within the boundaries of abstract Freudian psychoanalysis, but in non-academic layman's definitions.
 

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I think the most anyone can hope for is to experience moments of it. Some secular people seems to be in favour of parts of Buddhism to achieve this. could be universally applied, not sure, would someone with an IQ of 80 be even capable of grasping the idea?
Not sure if level of intelligence as measured by an IQ test comes into it. Stupid people have egos too, and you don't have to be highly intelligent to grasp the concept that your ego is a monster and responsible for controlling both you and others.
 

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I've studied Freud (aka Fraud) in some depth and detail, and was going to offer a Freudian definition of ego at the outset, but for the layman the ego's definition is not within the boundaries of abstract Freudian psychoanalysis, but in non-academic layman's definitions.
Fair enough.

I do think it requires a certain degree of intelligence to grasp the concept of dysfunctional egotism.
 

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Fools used to have shallow , and quixotic thoughts , hence, 'megalomaniac' ego-ideals (megalomania, a fool's 'determination' ) what's worse , when majority of the people are like this , words start to loose their meaning, 'opportunism' turns into uninhibitedness, 'introversion' turns into anti-social-disorder, actually these are real world examples.....
 

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Fair enough.

I do think it requires a certain degree of intelligence to grasp the concept of dysfunctional egotism.
Can you elaborate to the point of comprehension?
 

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The ego may well be the source of much evil in the world, but it's also the source of ethical thought and love.

The ego is reflective - it comes into being with the perception of ourselves from the outside, our perception of ourselves as an object. This is what precedes ethical thought.

Small babies have no ego, but they also cannot be described as having any ethical agency.

So transcending the ego has as many dangers as benefits. Some of the worst political crimes in humanity have been carried out precisely by encouraging individuals to dissolve their egos in some mass movement, which effectively allowed them to transfer their own ethical judgement (and therefore guilt) to some hideous Superego.
 

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Can you elaborate to the point of comprehension?
I think the same holds true of any concepts, especially concepts that are intangible such as the psyche, that a person must have a certain level of intelligence to comprehend a more nuanced meaning of self, will, decision, egotism etc. Without that intelligence and commensurate conceptualisation, one cannot become fully aware of one's own dysfunction to the point of change.
 

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I think the same holds true of any concepts, especially concepts that are intangible such as the psyche, that a person must have a certain level of intelligence to comprehend a more nuanced meaning of self, will, decision, egotism etc. Without that intelligence and commensurate conceptualisation, one cannot become fully aware of one's own dysfunction to the point of change.
Have you ever read Moscovici's Theory of Social Representations? He used to talk elaborate bollocks too.
 

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Elaborate bollocks. That describes everything from advertising to theology to literature. Looks like Mr Moscovici couldn't really miss that particular cow's arse with his specific banjo.
 

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One cannot live entirely on a so called higher plane of empathy, one must also look after ones own needs, which can be labelled ego. Mental health problems can arise if you do not take the time to listen and attend to your own selfish needs.
 

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The human ego has been defined as "a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance" and "an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others". There are a myriad of other definitions, and most people have a general, common sense, definition of what egotism is, and it is this egotism and its most extreme and unattractive manifestation "egomania" that I wish to focus upon.

Some people are more egotistical than others i.e. excessively conceited or absorbed in themselves and their own sense of self worth and self importance, and consequently tend to manifest a supercilious demeanour. The term "egomaniac" has been defined as "obsessive egotism or self-centredness" and "psychologically abnormal egotism". You'll experience egomaniacs on the internet as well as in real life, as these individual's have access to computers and online fora.

Egomania and it's closest cousin megalomania are responsible for a lot of human conflict, and the egomaniac's ego, tending to be much larger than that of the average individual, predisposes them to imposing their world view upon others, in the belief that only their word view is correct.

The human ego represents the lower self; our wants, desires, base impulses, dislikes, hatreds, animosities and so on. It also fuels our aspirations, and can be used as a positive force as well as a motivator of malice. The higher self is man risen above his unattractive lower self ego to an elevated and wiser state of benevolent self consciousness.

We reach the higher self when we view the situation from the other person's perspective (empathy). We access the higher self when we look back upon past actions and realise that we were wrong, and apologise. We become our higher selves when we realise that selfish lower self egotism is a barrier to personal self development and human evolution, and that to transcend the human ego is to transcend petty animosities, selfishness and greed, and the human predisposition to obtain power and control others.

Letting go of the human ego doesn't mean letting go of yourself. It means abandoning that part of yourself which compels you to act in a selfish, egotistical and self serving manner, instead of acting in the selfless and philanthropic interests of others. However, beware of the phony egotistical altruists, who nurture their egos by being seen to help others so as to gain a position of occupational and/or social status within an organisation and/or community. Egomaniacs are consumed and controlled by their own gargantuan egos, and the most disturbing part is that many of them are not even aware of the internal influence of which they are under.

Most egomaniacs are control freaks who attempt to control others, and they do it to feed the ego's natural predilection for power, status, dominance and control. Yet many of these egomaniacs are chronically insecure individuals, who control others out of a fear of being controlled. To transcend the human ego is to rise above it and control it, and not allow yourself to be controlled by it. To transcend the ego is to self liberate. If you find yourself being controlled by an egomaniac, one reflex response is to annihilate. Many people have found themselves in court and consequently in prison after exploding after many years of being controlled by an egomaniac.

To rise above our own ego and that of others is to live free of this strangulating influence. The ego is the driving force of a lot of positive human endeavour, but it is also the ultimate driving force of human conflict, destruction and ultimately death. Salvage yourself from the self destructive propensity of the human ego, and by learning to transcend its periodic impulse.

Go raibh maith agat le haghaidh éisteachta.
Pffft, Moi and moi's ego are in perfect harmony...
 

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Retail therapy is an interesting phrase. The idea that you can feel better by shopping. Always been interested in this phenomena which is predominant in western consumer culture but probably exists everywhere but in the Amazon and other isolated spots. Even there the discovery of a particularly laden fruit tree probably has a self comforting effect.

Ego as others have pointed out must be served as part of the human condition but I think where serving the ego becomes an all encompassing narcissism it can be damaging.

I have seen a few cases where an excess of narcissism or the prolonged narcissism of adolescence into adulthood can end up making a person very unhappy. I've seen one interesting case in particular that springs to mind where a thirty year old adult appears to have an emotional setting still at adolescent stage. Where if the world doesn't conform to what he wants he then announces he is in depression (self diagnosed of course) and basically sulks.

One of the most fascinating things about humans really- the ego can drive explorers to extreme achievements but can overwhelm the underachiever with debilitating narcissism and somewhere in the middle can lead to repetitive patterns of behaviour which hampers a fulfilling life.

Close to the conundrum of the human condition I suppose. Which is why the ego and its doings are of such interest.
 

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I have seen a few cases where an excess of narcissism or the prolonged narcissism of adolescence into adulthood can end up making a person very unhappy. I've seen one interesting case in particular that springs to mind where a thirty year old adult appears to have an emotional setting still at adolescent stage. Where if the world doesn't conform to what he wants he then announces he is in depression (self diagnosed of course) and basically sulks.
Are you suggesting that all adolescents are narcissistic, and that this inevitably leads to emotionally underdeveloped and unhappy adults with high expectations, and when these expectations are not met, they self diagnose as depressed?
 

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