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fergal1790

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There are no real travellers anymore, they are mostly settled....When they travelled the roads in years gone by they were called tinkers as they performed a function in society, repairing pots and pans....That is long in the past and they no longer are any different from the rest of us. Kenny has lost the plot...
 

Eoin Coir

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Will they ever wise up. The electorate don't reward this sort of shít at the voting booth.

FG need to learn that the media have a completely different agenda to the voters ( the ones who matter ).

Where was their reward for POLDP bill or SSM for that matter.
I agree, Adams semed to get bigger applause than Kenny. Of course Sen McLoughlin's mother was a traveller, and he has been plugging this for years.

As regards reward, FG get no reward, only lose some of their loyal older rural votes. Its a lose lose situation.
 

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It's coming to the stage that anyone in modest employment should give up ... become a traveller , never again work a day in your life and get everything paid for by those who persist in working !
Fine Gael are rewarding parasite behaviours ??
Yes and allege you are discriminated against, or bullied ?
 

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More madness there no more a sepret ethnic group than i am. A different culture for some of them thats it, iv met travelers who didn't follow the dominant traveler culture.
It's not just that, FG/FF, SF (in particular), are attempting/hoping that this little bribery will help to bring them along to vote for them.

They will impose this 'ethnicity' nonsense on to us, but would not have a traveller camp/housing within an asses roar of them - hypocrites.

I hope the travellers have the wit to know that.
 

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I agree, Adams semed to get bigger applause than Kenny. Of course Sen McLoughlin's mother was a traveller, and he has been plugging this for years.

As regards reward, FG get no reward, only lose some of their loyal older rural votes. Its a lose lose situation.
Exactly. The biggest cheerleaders for traveller ethnicity in the media will never vote for FG. They vote for fringe left parties. And it only serves to alienate traditional FG voters.

FG gain sweet fnck all from this. Same as SSM. Same as POLDP act.

Fianna Fail are the ones who have gained. ( Opposed POLDP and wouldn't campaign for SSM ). This is why they have historically run rings around FG politically.

Message to Enda.. stop listening to the fncking media. Take a leaf from Trump's book.
 

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They will come after free speech expect attempts to muzzle media outlets and attacks on online forums and newspaper comments etc etc. Media won't be allowed mention ethnicity or report on the more negative aspects of Traveller "culture".

Nobody has explained in detail the "barriers" to education nor have they consigned what's rights travellers don't get that everybody else gets.
 

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Can't everybody else just claim that they are of traveller ethnicity too, and start abusing the gravy train?

How does one go about proving that one is a traveller? Is there a licensing authority, or a blood test that is available?

If challenged that you don't actually travel can't you just claim to be a settled traveller?

Anybody who are not real 'travellers' with traveller names like Barrett, Ward, Maughan, and Connors (O'Connor), should immediately apply for ethnic status.
 

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I grew up in a society that for all of its many Southern faults was undivided.

Fine Gael have calmly, and without so much as a backward glance at the electorate thrown a spanner in that particular works.

In terms of divisiveness, though not, obviously, impact, it reminds me of the needless calling of a vote on Brexit in the UK.
 

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They will come after free speech expect attempts to muzzle media outlets and attacks on online forums and newspaper comments etc etc. Media won't be allowed mention ethnicity or report on the more negative aspects of Traveller "culture".

Nobody has explained in detail the "barriers" to education nor have they consigned what's rights travellers don't get that everybody else gets.


Why not? Isn't the whole point of this thread that they've just been declared to be a separate ethnic bunch.

They can't have it both ways - to be declared to be of separate ethnicity, but then expect that nobody will ever mention that.
 

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Anybody who are not real 'travellers' with traveller names like Barrett, Ward, Maughan, and Connors (O'Connor), should immediately apply for ethnic status.
Who keeps the official list of traveller names?
 

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You don't need to be a journalist to file an FOI request but you'd become a renowned one if you did and got the data you seem to think exists.
The Data "should" exist in the future if the civil service had software that collated fields for information.

I know there are many decent travellers like in all communities it's just recently in my town a settled one and his Latvian girlfriend were murdered by a known traveller evil drug dealer a few miles away just as he was making a decent go of his life but knew too much., another traveller drug dealer was murdered outside a school waiting to pick up his kid and another family (now in jail) terrorised the place with their behaviour for about 5 years before the Guards could finally stick them away for a while no thanks to legal aid and all the bollixology that goes with the usual brigade that know NOTHING of living with it.

I went to school with travellers and they were the most decent folk you could know but they always were wary of the black sheep in their community, these black sheep recruit young travellers far, far , too easily as their options are limited. Enda should be encouraging Traveller folk to get into the workforce and shun the scum in their community who are the minority but rule by fear.

Travellers don't travel anymore, there are no caravans suddenly set up for a few weeks and then they move on, it is a myth, the traveller women should be the rulers and not the men, they would want the best for their kids but sadly it is not the case, pity,
 

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It's coming to the stage that anyone in modest employment should give up ... become a traveller , never again work a day in your life and get everything paid for by those who persist in working !
Fine Gael are rewarding parasite behaviours ??
I was just thinking about the parasite aspect of this.

In order to exist, this separate ethnic grouping needs a separate settled community to live off.

You're hardly going to invent electricity, or anything else of much use if you're travelling about all the time. They don't actually have their own society - they need the settled host community to live off. They need the host community for education facilities, medical facilities etc. They don't have their own versions of these things.
 

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It's good that they have got this .Now when they act the nunt we can put it down to their ethnicity and let them explain why they are such a shafting and violent race .

So WHY do we treat them like scum?
We treat them as different.
But when they say they are different, we claim NO too?
If you were a traveller, what would YOU do?






Do you treat traveller's as your neighbours?
When you see some caravans moving into your town, do you think great I must welcome them?
When you occasionally meet some travellers, out and about, do you, curse them, ignore them, walk off grumbling about them..... Or talk to them?
You want to see them as different, but when they claim they are different, you have a problem?
 

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You can really see a Trump emerging in Ireland in the next decade or so . Our political parties are slaves to Political correctness. The country is utterly nuts and all our political parties are an utter waste of space .
 

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You can really see a Trump emerging in Ireland in the next decade or so . Our political parties are slaves to Political correctness. The country is utterly nuts and all our political parties are an utter waste of space .
Yes Trump saw the vacuum and jumped on it. He does not give a damn about the media as he never had them. Lots of Americans like that.
 

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You can really see a Trump emerging in Ireland in the next decade or so . Our political parties are slaves to Political correctness. The country is utterly nuts and all our political parties are an utter waste of space .
Moves like this go against the will of the vast majority of people.
 

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You can really see a Trump emerging in Ireland in the next decade or so . Our political parties are slaves to Political correctness. The country is utterly nuts and all our political parties are an utter waste of space .
True enough.

When the mainstream parties fall prey to the SJW stuff, it encourages the extremists to plant themselves in the role of the only hope for common sense. Some will buy into it.
 

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Moves like this go against the will of the vast majority of people.
Shouldn't there have been a referendum about this? It's a massive move in terms of defining who the Irish people are.
 

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The Data "should" exist in the future if the civil service had software that collated fields for information.

I know there are many decent travellers like in all communities it's just recently in my town a settled one and his Latvian girlfriend were murdered by a known traveller evil drug dealer a few miles away just as he was making a decent go of his life but knew too much., another traveller drug dealer was murdered outside a school waiting to pick up his kid and another family (now in jail) terrorised the place with their behaviour for about 5 years before the Guards could finally stick them away for a while no thanks to legal aid and all the bollixology that goes with the usual brigade that know NOTHING of living with it.

I went to school with travellers and they were the most decent folk you could know but they always were wary of the black sheep in their community, these black sheep recruit young travellers far, far , too easily as their options are limited. Enda should be encouraging Traveller folk to get into the workforce and shun the scum in their community who are the minority but rule by fear.

Travellers don't travel anymore, there are no caravans suddenly set up for a few weeks and then they move on, it is a myth, the traveller women should be the rulers and not the men, they would want the best for their kids but sadly it is not the case, pity,


If they don't travel should they be called settlers from now on?

Or in Prince fashion, the people formerly known as travellers? The PFKAT.
 

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