Trump Administration Admits Global Warming of 4C by 2100, but Adopts a Policy of Denial...

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Last month, deep in a 500-page environmental impact statement, the Trump administration made a startling assumption: On its current course, the planet will warm a disastrous seven degrees (F) by the end of this century.

A rise of ..... about four degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels would be catastrophic, according to scientists. Many coral reefs would dissolve in increasingly acidic oceans. Parts of Manhattan and Miami would be underwater without costly coastal defenses. Extreme heat waves would routinely smother large parts of the globe.

But the administration did not offer this dire forecast, premised on the idea that the world will fail to cut its greenhouse gas emissions, as part of an argument to combat climate change. Just the opposite: The analysis assumes the planet’s fate is already sealed.

The draft statement, issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), was written to justify President Trump’s decision to freeze federal fuel-efficiency standards for cars and light trucks built after 2020. While the proposal would increase greenhouse gas emissions, the impact statement says, that policy would add just a very small drop to a very big, hot bucket.
Draft Environmental Impact Statement

Dance of Death

This is the logic ...

  • For the perennial drunk, one more drink does not matter.
  • For the heroin addict, just one more fix .... after hundreds of heroin doses, what does one more count?
  • For the habitual abuser of a child, one more rape hardly counts ...
  • Reducing nuclear weapons.... one more bomb does not matter, when there are already so many ....
  • As Stalin said "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic .... ", so forget the tragedies, the statistics are so bad that we may as well shrug, burn everything, and leave it to future generations to clean up (if they can) ....

This is the Trump Administration taking refuge in the desperate "It's too late to do anything!" excuse that is the last stage of climate change denial ... so let's enrich the fossil fuel magnates while they can still spend on their aeroplanes and mistresses. Party on!

Meanwhile, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) warns in a recent report that significant changes in greenhouse gas emissions must be made before 2030 ...

A landmark report from the United Nations’ scientific panel on climate change paints a far more dire picture of the immediate consequences of climate change than previously thought and says that avoiding the damage requires transforming the world economy at a speed and scale that has “no documented historic precedent.”
http://www.ipcc.ch/report/sr15/

Trump himself claims to have read reports that the global climate will be "fabulous". Right.

Trump: Climate change may be 'fabulous' despite UN climate change report - Business Insider
 


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You really do run out of superlatives where that guy and his ilk are concerned.
Denial it is, but in there case its based on wonton ignorance and a snub to the overwhelming consensus of very qualifid scientific opinion:

Here's a funny:

Trump sceptical of UN climate change report findings

Bye the bye, have you been over at arctic sea ice forum today.
Its not looking good at all.
 

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Well mother nature is leaving her calling card every so often:
Storm Callum is on the way to hit Ireland in the next few hours... only Orange Alert.
Storm Michael is lashing Florida, USA at this very moment. One of the worst in memory.
That Tsunami earchquake in Palu Indonesia had 2,500 dead -- and 5,000 still reported missing. Who is to day it wasn't at least partially man-made what with their underground nuclear testing and such?
The Hurricane season is just beginning.
And Donald says that it's just the weather
A few more seasons of this will soften the cough of the hardest politician.
 

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Well mother nature is leaving her calling card every so often:
Storm Callum is on the way to hit Ireland in the next few hours... only Orange Alert.
Storm Michael is lashing Florida, USA at this very moment. One of the worst in memory.
That Tsunami earchquake in Palu Indonesia had 2,500 dead -- and 5,000 still reported missing. Who is to day it wasn't at least partially man-made what with their underground nuclear testing and such?
The Hurricane season is just beginning.


A few more seasons of this will soften the cough of the hardest politician.
LOL - you must work for the IPCC:rolleyes2:
 

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Well mother nature is leaving her calling card every so often:
Storm Callum is on the way to hit Ireland in the next few hours... only Orange Alert.
Storm Michael is lashing Florida, USA at this very moment. One of the worst in memory.
That Tsunami earchquake in Palu Indonesia had 2,500 dead -- and 5,000 still reported missing. Who is to day it wasn't at least partially man-made what with their underground nuclear testing and such?
The Hurricane season is just beginning.


A few more seasons of this will soften the cough of the hardest politician.
America needs about ten of those a month to finally persuade them that voting for evil w@nkers like Trump is going to create a climate disaster for them as well.
 

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You really do run out of superlatives where that guy and his ilk are concerned.
Denial it is, but in there case its based on wonton ignorance and a snub to the overwhelming consensus of very qualifid scientific opinion:

Here's a funny:

Trump sceptical of UN climate change report findings

Bye the bye, have you been over at arctic sea ice forum today.
Its not looking good at all.
Trump is too much of an ignoramus to be sceptical of anything.

To be a true sceptic, you need to know the subject matter thoroughly, and be capable of formulating your doubts coherently.

Trump is unable to do either, and most self-styled "climate sceptics" are not much better.
 

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Appropriately, an Environmental Economist who has advocated carbon taxes won the Nobel Prize for Economists this week.

Bill Nordhaus, The Nobel Prize, Climate Change And Carbon Taxes

Who why listen to a professional economist when you have failed businessman, reality TV star, grifter, Russian pensioner, general bullshytter and ignoramus Donald Trump in your corner?
 

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The GOP is possessed of a fundamentalist version of laissez-faire economics (except for Trumps tariffs). Green taxes and emissions regulation run counter to that vision. I like Trump but on Global Warming he's plain wrong.
 

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Trump is too much of an ignoramus to be sceptical of anything.

To be a true sceptic, you need to know the subject matter thoroughly, and be capable of formulating your doubts coherently.

Trump is unable to do either, and most self-styled "climate sceptics" are not much better.
Nobody cares about this farcical religion, the only time we hear anything about it is when somebody is looking for funding.
 

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owedtojoy

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The GOP is possessed of a fundamentalist version of laissez-faire economics (except for Trumps tariffs). Green taxes and emissions regulation run counter to that vision. I like Trump but on Global Warming he's plain wrong.
The GOP is "possessed" by its plutocrat donor base, and will do anything to keep them happy and donating ...

If it was truly possessed by conservative economics then it would have demurred at exploding the US deficit and granting an unfunded tax cut to corporations and the wealthy. It would also be conservative, in the true sense of the word, to adopt a cautious approach to climate change, and at the very least to "do no harm".

Believe it or not, to be conservative (like, say, Dwight Eisenhower) once meant being pro-science, not professionally sceptic when science annoys the donor base or the NRA.

Republicans intend, as someone said, to comfort the already comfortable, and afflict the already afflicted.
 

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Who why listen to a professional economist when you have failed businessman, reality TV star, grifter, Russian pensioner, general bullshytter and ignoramus Donald Trump in your corner?
How did professional economist and media darling Paul Krugman's prediction of economic Armageddon for the US economy within weeks of a Trump presidency work out?
 

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The GOP is "possessed" by its plutocrat donor base, and will do anything to keep them happy and donating ...

If it was truly possessed by conservative economics then it would have demurred at exploding the US deficit and granting an unfunded tax cut to corporations and the wealthy. It would also be conservative, in the true sense of the word, to adopt a cautious approach to climate change, and at the very least to "do no harm".

Believe it or not, to be conservative (like, say, Dwight Eisenhower) once meant being pro-science, not professionally sceptic when science annoys the donor base or the NRA.

Republicans intend, as someone said, to comfort the already comfortable, and afflict the already afflicted.
Obama's (a Democrat) deficit was double that of any president before him, enough said.
 

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How did professional economist and media darling Paul Krugman's prediction of economic Armageddon for the US economy within weeks of a Trump presidency work out?
Armageddon deferred, but no thanks to Trump.

Thanks to Obama, the American economy has proved resilient.

And how are Chinese hoaxes with you today? Still a true believer?

Do you go for Trump's vaccination denial too? Surely, you must be faithful?
 

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Armageddon deferred, but no thanks to Trump.

Thanks to Obama, the American economy has proved resilient.

And how are Chinese hoaxes with you today? Still a true believer?

Do you go for Trump's vaccination denial too? Surely, you must be faithful?
Armageddon deferred yet again, Global Warming is nothing but a glorified doomsday cult.
 

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The GOP is "possessed" by its plutocrat donor base, and will do anything to keep them happy and donating ...

If it was truly possessed by conservative economics then it would have demurred at exploding the US deficit and granting an unfunded tax cut to corporations and the wealthy. It would also be conservative, in the true sense of the word, to adopt a cautious approach to climate change, and at the very least to "do no harm".

Believe it or not, to be conservative (like, say, Dwight Eisenhower) once meant being pro-science, not professionally sceptic when science annoys the donor base or the NRA.

Republicans intend, as someone said, to comfort the already comfortable, and afflict the already afflicted.
You think you can get off the hook by starting a new thread. Your climate communist obsessions was debated and you lost.
 

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You really do run out of superlatives where that guy and his ilk are concerned.
Denial it is, but in there case its based on wonton ignorance and a snub to the overwhelming consensus of very qualifid scientific opinion:

Here's a funny:

Trump sceptical of UN climate change report findings

Bye the bye, have you been over at arctic sea ice forum today.
Its not looking good at all.
Explain the removal of the Roman and medieval warm periods from the models. Owde claims there was a temperature fence round Northern Europe to keep it from spreading,
 

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Explain the removal of the Roman and medieval warm periods from the models. Owde claims there was a temperature fence round Northern Europe to keep it from spreading,
I think that was explained to you before:

How does the Medieval Warm Period compare to current global temperatures?


I understand that it's warmer now and I further understand that we're likely headed towards a modoki-type El Nino this season.
further, much of what remained of the muli-year ice in the arctic has just recently been flushed out the fram straight.
But you and your mates in the white house like to ostriches with your heads in the sand.
Mike Mann once said "we don't need computers to tell us that the globe is warming" there are signs everywhere.
What are we going to do about it?
 

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I think that was explained to you before:

How does the Medieval Warm Period compare to current global temperatures?


I understand that it's warmer now and I further understand that we're likely headed towards a modoki-type El Nino this season.
further, much of what remained of the muli-year ice in the arctic has just recently been flushed out the fram straight.
But you and your mates in the white house like to ostriches with your heads in the sand.
Mike Mann once said "we don't need computers to tell us that the globe is warming" there are signs everywhere.
What are we going to do about it?
You might just dismiss it, with a shoulder shrug, as natural variability and for sure, you're right, but, I understand that they are enclined to make the planet warmer.
Heck, even La Nino's are warmer these days:

Climate Prediction Center: ENSO Diagnostic Discussion

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