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Dame_Enda

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The people trafficking crisis in the Meditteranean cannot be resolved until there is one government in Libya not two. Haftar controls most of the country. And democracy has not worked in Libya because most of the parliament withdrew upon elected to set up the other govt at the time in Tobruk. The latter government was hand in glove with the traffickers according to some reports. Maybe Haftar can stop the people trafficking, in a deal like that agreed between the then Italian government and Gaddafi, which was quite successful.
 


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Gideon Rachman: Why Donald Trump Is Great News for Xi Jinping:

Pay-walled, but this is the gist:

  • Trump... likes to create a crisis, let it run a while and then announce that he has solved it... striking an agreement that he self-certifies as 'tremendous'... [but is] superficial and the underlying issues will remain largely unaddressed.
  • This is the model that the Trump administration has followed with North Korea, as well as with Mexico and Canada. And it is the model that is pretty clearly going to emerge in Mr Trump’s 'trade war' with China....
  • But calling off the trade war will not be the only gift from Mr Trump to Chinese president Xi Jinping. For Mr Trump has already disarmed America in an even more important battle—the battle of ideas....
  • America’s most potent weapon in its emerging contest for supremacy with China is... its ideas... 'freedom' and 'democracy' are powerful....
  • Sadly, that has now changed. As a candidate, Mr Trump gave a very ambiguous reply when asked about the Tiananmen massacre of 1989, stating: 'they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength'.
  • As president, he has made it clear that he is an admirer of authoritarian strongmen around the world...
To Trump the hero of Tienanmen Square was not the lone man who stood in front of a tank. He was a loser. The real hero to Trump was the "strong" Deng Xiaoping
 
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The people trafficking crisis in the Meditteranean cannot be resolved until there is one government in Libya not two. Haftar controls most of the country. And democracy has not worked in Libya because most of the parliament withdrew upon elected to set up the other govt at the time in Tobruk. The latter government was hand in glove with the traffickers according to some reports. Maybe Haftar can stop the people trafficking, in a deal like that agreed between the then Italian government and Gaddafi, which was quite successful.
That might be fine if Haftar could end the war in a few days, but the Battle of Tripoli has been going on for months with increasing savagery, and could cost massive civilian casualties.

The US initially demanded an "immediate" halt to Haftar's offensive, with Pompeo issuing a statement on April 7 opposing Haftar's offensive.

But in late April, the White House issued another statement saying Trump and Haftar had spoken over the phone on April 15. During that call, Trump recognised Haftar's "significant role in fighting terrorism and securing Libya's oil resources," the statement read.
Oil resources? Now why does that ding a bell? :unsure:

It will be highly unfunny if Trump's Libya passes up a chance to end the civil war in Libya, and it turns out to be a continuation of Obama's Libya.
 
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As a member of the EU should Poland discuss inviting US troops into Europe with the other EU member states or has this happened
No real point. Germany won't go along with that. So a bilateral agreement is probably the only way.
 

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No real point. Germany won't go along with that. So a bilateral agreement is probably the only way.
IMO it should be put to a vote. I'm sure millions of ordinary Europeans don't want to see the US troops ensconced in the centre of the EU , particulary with the unhinged President they serve
 

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IMO it should be put to a vote. I'm sure millions of ordinary Europeans don't want to see the US troops ensconced in the centre of the EU , particulary with the unhinged President they serve
They dislike the prospect of Russian troops in the EU much more, locking up political opponents, journalists and LGBT people.
 

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They dislike the prospect of Russian troops in the EU much more, locking up political opponents, journalists and LGBT people.
I don't see any country inviting Russian troops in to the EU . Of course I could be wrong
 

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IMO it should be put to a vote. I'm sure millions of ordinary Europeans don't want to see the US troops ensconced in the centre of the EU , particulary with the unhinged President they serve
Where is the proof he is unhinged ? Your own imagination doesn't count in real life.
 

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As a member of the EU should Poland discuss inviting US troops into Europe with the other EU member states or has this happened
Depends.

The EU has no "official" defence policy, as NATO serves that need.

In a survey taken before the European election, Poles see Russia as the 2nd biggest threat to Europe, behind Islamic terrorism. That sentiment seems to be echoed right along Eastern Europe from Finland and the Baltic States to Romania.

The US may just rebalance its forces by taking some from elsewhere (like Germany), but re-deployments would be discussed and agreed at top NATO level.

It is not an issue that should worry the EU unduly.
 

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Update. Its 1000 troops. Warsaw will have to pay for the supporting infrastructure though. Also Poland is to buy 30 F35 fighters.

 

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Update. Its 1000 troops. Warsaw will have to pay for the supporting infrastructure though. Also Poland is to buy 30 F35 fighters.

Apparently, Trump is enraged that other NATO countries have increased defence spending - but not bigly on American weapons.

 

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Well Germany is refusing to increase defence spending. Trump was asked did he think Germany would move on this and he replied no.
 

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Well Germany is refusing to increase defence spending. Trump was asked did he think Germany would move on this and he replied no.
Trump is such a consistent liar only an idiot would accept anything he said without checking it.
 

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Germany can't even get many of its planes off the ground if a leaked report a few years ago is anything to go by.
 

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