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Sync

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I think something like the no fly zone the West imposed in northern and southern Iraq when Saddam Hussein was in power would be a good idea for the Kurdish areas in Syria.
Yup. It's a great idea. Are the planes who will patrol to ensure NATO member Turkish planes don't kill all the Kurds going to take off from NATO bases in Turkey?
 

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I think something like the no fly zone the West imposed in northern and southern Iraq when Saddam Hussein was in power would be a good idea for the Kurdish areas in Syria.
You think the US is going to enforce a no fly zone? Like how? Are they going to shoot down Turkish planes?
 

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Well they have 5000 troops in Iraq and aircraft carriers in the Meditteranean.
How would ground troops in Iraq help the Kurds in Syria?

And how would the US organise combat air patrols from aircraft carriers that are over 600 km away?
 

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James Baker, a close friend of the president and in many ways more talented, could be trusted by third parties to speak for him, be discreet and deliver a deal. Such a person is impossible in Trumpworld for multiple obvious reasons. Pompeo’s speech in Cairo was for an American audience of one.

Nobody can speak for idiot Trump, simply because he changes his mind so much about every issue.

As soon as Baker made a deal on one basis idiot Trump would change his mind about the issue and throw Baker under the bus.
 

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Pentagon seeking sensors in space for new missile defence system.

[video=youtube;zyOHYdc1ViI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyOHYdc1ViI[/video]
 

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Apparently, Trump has several times recently expressed a wish to withdraw the US from NATO, handing Russia its biggest victory since Stalingrad. His aides probably leaked the fact to get Congress to stop him.

There is no one left in the Trump Administration to speak up against such foolishness. It is even rumoured that Pompeo will bail out to run for the Senate.

It is astonishing that 22 "conservative" Republicans actually voted against support for NATO. How "conservative" are they? Withdrawing from NATO would be the most radical move in US foreign policy since Nixon went to China. Afraid Putin might allow a few leaks on Trump's indiscretions?

This should pass the Senate, if McConnell brings it to the floor. And it should be veto-proof, if required.
 

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It is one place where Trump's crony capitalist matiness with fossil fuel plutocrats and climate change deniers wins over his debts to Putin.
 

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Graham says Trump floated using military force in Venezuela | TheHill

....President Trump reportedly broached the idea of using military force in Venezuela in a conversation with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) earlier this month.

Graham recounted the exchange to Axios, telling the news outlet that Trump asked him what he thought about using military force in a nation where the U.S. is pushing for regime change.

"Well, you need to go slow on that, that could be problematic," Graham recalls him saying to Trump, according to Axios. Trump reportedly replied, "well, I'm surprised, you want to invade everybody.'"

"And I said, 'I don't want to invade everybody, I only want to use the military when our national security interests are threatened,'" Graham told Axios.

Graham added that Trump is "really hawkish" when it comes to Venezuela. But Axios noted that there are no signs the Trump administration has plans to invade the South American country. ......
 

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Apparently, Trump has several times recently expressed a wish to withdraw the US from NATO, handing Russia its biggest victory since Stalingrad. His aides probably leaked the fact to get Congress to stop him.

There is no one left in the Trump Administration to speak up against such foolishness. It is even rumoured that Pompeo will bail out to run for the Senate.

It is astonishing that 22 "conservative" Republicans actually voted against support for NATO. How "conservative" are they? Withdrawing from NATO would be the most radical move in US foreign policy since Nixon went to China. Afraid Putin might allow a few leaks on Trump's indiscretions?

This should pass the Senate, if McConnell brings it to the floor. And it should be veto-proof, if required.
Owed, do u genuinely think Russia wants to control Eastern Europe or is it only a propaganda bulletin point your reciting? My opinion thinking rationally is that Russia desires cooperation with the rest of Europe. Russia is underpopulated as it is with its vast energy rich territories and yet its supposed to covet the Baltic states with their antagonistic nationals and even Poland/Finland. The debacle of Afghanistan hastened the breakup of the SU/'russian empire'. Russians bled in their horrific brutal engagements with the ~ 1 million Chechens but you'd have us believe that without a proactive strong NATO they'd be back in Berlin within a heartbeat. They lost whats the number 20/30 million getting to Berlin the last time but they're the scorpion on the frogs back, its their predestioned nature and they'll happily decimate their population, forgo their relative prosperity and risk the destruction of their majestic jewells St Petersburg/moscow just to be despised conquerors. Come on man!
What the Russian governmnet/military wanted was international stability. What came after 9/11 was international disorder which cant be laid at the door of Moscow. Then NATO under the guidance of these deranged neocons sowing chaos breaks commitments and extends to Russias borders. U know very well that Yanukovich was democratically elected in Ukraine. The country was finely balanced between voters with a preference for Moscow or Washington with 3-5% floating but still with EU compliance the neocon agenda is to ignite anarchy and an undemocratic putch against the rightful Ukrainian president. Its doutful now that the pre putch Ukraine can be ressurrected but EU/Moscow relations can be if the former distances itself from the declining and undoubtedly reckless direction of the deranged neocon agenda dominating inside the Beltway.
 

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President Cuckling McSniffles appears to have agreed to capitulate to the Taliban and withdraw from Afghanistan.
 
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