Trump gets caught (Second Thread)


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And so it begins:

"President Trump’s legal team is preparing written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller’s questions in the Russia probe, CNN reports. The questions reportedly relate to Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russia. The network reports that Trump’s legal team is also relying “on documents previously provided to the special counsel.” After Trump responds to Mueller’s initial questions, another round of questioning could follow. The two sides have not yet agreed on whether to go forward with an in-person interview between Trump and investigators in Mueller’s office who are “probing whether Trump obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey.” Trump attorney Jay Sekulow told CNN that the two parties are “in continuing discussions with the special counsel and [they] do not comment on those discussions.”

Trump's lawyers preparing answers to Mueller's questions - CNNPolitics
 

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And so it begins:

"President Trump’s legal team is preparing written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller’s questions in the Russia probe, CNN reports. The questions reportedly relate to Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russia. The network reports that Trump’s legal team is also relying “on documents previously provided to the special counsel.” After Trump responds to Mueller’s initial questions, another round of questioning could follow. The two sides have not yet agreed on whether to go forward with an in-person interview between Trump and investigators in Mueller’s office who are “probing whether Trump obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey.” Trump attorney Jay Sekulow told CNN that the two parties are “in continuing discussions with the special counsel and [they] do not comment on those discussions.”

Trump's lawyers preparing answers to Mueller's questions - CNNPolitics
Firing Comey cannot be obstruction of justice. If the sheriff is on my tail for a crime, I can still vote against him come election time.
 
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Firing Comey cannot be obstruction of justice. If the sheriff is on my tail for a crime, I can still vote against him come election time.
Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.

EDIT: One cannot "vote against the sheriff at election time" because the Mayor has already fired him and he is gone. besides he is the good guy and we want him in there as sheriff; he is after the criminals.
 
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Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.
Where is the proof of the crime?
 

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Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.
It is even simpler than that.

If there were discrepancies in a company accounts, auditors and forensic accountants would be called in to look over the books. If the CEO of the company obstructed the auditors, that would tell them a lot about what was going on.

The record and behaviours of Manafort, Flynn, Roger Stone, Don Trump Jnr, Pappadopoulos, Vesilnitskaya and Cohen all point to what amount to major discrepancies in the Trump campaign, given the known scope of Russian election interference (which no one doubts).

Enquiries into conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and Russian agents are entirely legitimate. You don't need proof to start an enquiry, just suspicion. Proof comes afterwards.

The refusal of Trump to co-operate fully with the enquiry points an obvious finger of guilt in his direction.
 
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"U.S. Says ‘Others’ Are Under Scrutiny in Cohen Grand Jury Probe
By Bob Van Voris , Greg Farrell , and David Voreacos
October 25, 2018, 8:48 PM GMT+1 Updated on October 25, 2018, 9:30 PM GMT+1

"The grand jury investigating President Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen is also scrutinizing “others” who may not be aware of prosecutors’ interest in them, the U.S. said in a court filing.

"Numerous uncharged third parties” are named in the documents, the government said. Protecting their privacy interests make it impractical to release the warrant papers in redacted form, they argued...MORE

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
 
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Cesar Sayoc. Republican stickers on the van. I wonder who hired him to affect the election? Dumb? Dumber? or Dumbest?
 

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Saw a rant from the ex governor Kasich on CNN the other day. I think he ran against Trump and sounds like he might again, reminded me a lot of McCain.
 

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Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.

EDIT: One cannot "vote against the sheriff at election time" because the Mayor has already fired him and he is gone. besides he is the good guy and we want him in there as sheriff; he is after the criminals.
The powers to appoint the sheriff are separate from the function of that Sheriff. The function is held by the office not the individual office holder. The Sheriff could die, be promoted or transferred. A new sheriff must be appointed to replace him. In Europe the police are appointed by government of the day from existing officers. In the USA the sheriff is elected directly by the people. The fact that he is involved in investigations is of no consequence, if they don't vote for him , he is out.

In the case of Mullier, if he is sacked, the alleged crimes do not disappear, they are the responsibility of the police force with jurisdiction. Its the same in Ireland if a murder is committed, the Dublin based murder squad moves in to assist local officers with the investigagtion and they normally work hand in hand with them.

If they don't find the culprit the case could remain open for several years and eventually a police man who was not ever born at the time of the crime could arrest the culprit.
 
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I sent 300 Euros over to halp Tump get elected, I understand some posters were bought but I don't know anything more.
That will put you in huge trouble. It is against the law for a foreign citizen to donate funds in American elections. Bye-bye, Valahmic.
 

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Trump suffers setback in emoluments case against him

President Donald Trump's lawyers cannot try to derail a lawsuit over his ownership of the Trump Hotel in Washington by appealing a key early ruling in the case, a federal judge said Friday, dealing another blow to the president's efforts to block the case from going forward.

The attorneys general of Maryland and Washington, D.C., claim that Trump is violating the Constitution's emolument's clauses, which bar the president from receiving "any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any king, prince, or foreign state" or any state in the U.S. The lawsuit claims that he improperly benefits financially when foreign or state governments patronize the hotel he owns just a few blocks from the White House.
 
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"A federal judge on Thursday blocked construction of TransCanada’s $8 billion Keystone XL Pipeline, handing a major victory to environmentalists and dealing a blow to the Trump administration. U.S. District Judge Brian Morris in Montana overturned a permit for the 1,179-mile pipeline’s construction granted by the Trump White House last year, saying the justification given for approving the project was inadequate. Morris took particular issue with the administration’s apparent disregard for climate concerns and criticized the State Department, which analyzed the project, for failing to take into consideration the effect of possible oil spills and the effects of greenhouse-gas emissions."....more

Judge blocks construction of Keystone XL pipeline
 
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