Trump is violating U.S. Constitution by retaining ownership of his international business empire as President

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Trump is violating U.S. Constitution by retaining ownership of his business empire as President

Wow it didn't take him long to commit an Impeachable offence!


Trump has violated his oath to the Constitution

On January 20th, 2017, President-elect Trump put his hand on two bibles — one a family bible, and one the same bible that President Lincoln was sworn in for his first term, and that President Obama used — and swore that he would, to the best of his ability, “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

President Trump then promptly broke his word.

Specifically, the minute Trump was sworn in, he violated Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution, known as the emoluments clause.

The emoluments clause prohibits any person holding a federal office (such as, for example, the presidency) from accepting “any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.” In other words: People in the federal government aren’t allowed to take anything at all from any foreign government entity.

Trump, however, retains ownership of his international business empire as president. And his business empire is taking in a stream of payments from foreign governments — money that ultimately goes into his pockets.

For example, the Kuwait National Day celebration, thrown by the Kuwaiti embassy, will be held at Trump’s downtown D.C. hotel in February.

The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China Ltd. (ICBC), which is controlled by the Chinese state, is currently paying rent for tenancy in the Manhattan Trump Tower (according to mortgage documents filed in 2012, it is the Tower’s largest office resident).

And, for some foreign politicians and foreign diplomats in town for the inauguration, Trump’s Washington hotel is the place to be this weekend, according to reporting from the New York Times.

Each of these represents an incident in which the President of the United States will, effectively, be receiving payment from a foreign government.
Full Story: Think Progress - Trump has violated his oath to the Constitution
 
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Since when is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, which Trump is currently and continuously committing and could lead to him being impeached, having a hissy fit?
 
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Impeachment process is trial by House and Senate effectively. It's not going to happen with a Republican majority until mid-terms.
 

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It comes down to whether the acceptance has to be knowing or not, in the context of the handover of management to Eric and Don Jr.

Trump has already promised that profits from businesses in other countries will be paid to the Treasury I think. So I think if he made a similar arrangement for payments from foreign govts maybe that would get around it but I dont know whether he will or not.
 

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Impeachment process is trial by House and Senate effectively. It's not going to happen with a Republican majority until mid-terms.
I agree but the fact hes violating U.S. Constitution from the first second hes in office, should be made known public and widely and see what happens!
 

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Impeachment process is trial by House and Senate effectively. It's not going to happen with a Republican majority until mid-terms.
The gerrymandering is so extreme at this stage that the Dems would need maybe a popular vote lead of 6% to overturn the GOP majority in the House. In 2012 the Dems won 51% of the NC vote in the Congressional races, but just one third of the House seats there. The Dems are just as bad in the states they control like Maryland where the GOP got 40% of the vote but just 10% of the seats.
 

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The gerrymandering is so extreme at this stage that the Dems would need maybe a popular vote lead of 6% to overturn the GOP majority in the House. In 2012 the Dems won 51% of the NC vote in the Congressional races, but just one third of the House seats there. The Dems are just as bad in the states they control like Maryland where the GOP got 40% of the vote but just 10% of the seats.
or Connecticut in 2014 where the GOP won more than 40% of the vote but 0% of the seats, or Massachusetts where the GOP won over 30% of the statewide vote despite contesting only 6 of 9 seats but got 0% of the seats.
 

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Impeachment process is trial by House and Senate effectively. It's not going to happen with a Republican majority until mid-terms.
Even though the White House incumbent party typically lose seats in their first mid terms, the map is so hostile to the Democrats it's hard to see how they pick up seats.

Ironically, Trump's victory probably saved a few of the Democratic Senators up in 2018.

So yea, impeachment unlikely until a second Trump term, should that happen.
 

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Even though the White House incumbent party typically lose seats in their first mid terms, the map is so hostile to the Democrats it's hard to see how they pick up seats.

Ironically, Trump's victory probably saved a few of the Democratic Senators up in 2018.

So yea, impeachment unlikely until a second Trump term, should that happen.
If they botch the Obamacare repeal and millions get kicked off health insurance there could be a backlash in 2018.
 

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If they botch the Obamacare repeal and millions get kicked off health insurance there could be a backlash in 2018.
Completely agree. The Obamacare rollout was a disaster and if the replacement is similar it won't go down well.

Trumps Cabinet is being pushed through a bit quickly IMO and should one or more of them to be found with skeletons in closet or out of their depth, it would reflect badly on Trump. He could brush off one bad appointment but more than that would be damaging and most Presidents have to abandon at least one nominee. Obama had to abandon Daschle as HHS, Bush had to abandon Bernie Kerik as Secretary of Homeland Security and the late Janet Reno was Clintons third choice as AG.

That said, here are eight GOP Senators up in 2018 and 25 Dem Senators including 10 in states that Trump won and five of those in deep red states. With the exception of Nevada and Arizona, the other six GOP senate seats are in deep red states.

The 2020 senate map is a bit more mixed and by then who knows.
 

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Completely agree. The Obamacare rollout was a disaster and if the replacement is similar it won't go down well.

Trumps Cabinet is beidepth, it would reflect badly on Trump. He could brush off one bad appointment but more than that would be damaging and most Presidents have to abang pushed through a bit quickly IMO and should one or more of them to be found with skeletons in closet or out of their ndon at least one nominee. Obama had to abandon Daschle as HHS, Bush had to abandon Bernie Kerik as Secretary of Homeland Security and the late Janet Reno was Clintons third choice as AG.

That said, here are eight GOP Senators up in 2018 and 25 Dem Senators including 10 in states that Trump won and five of those in deep red states. With the exception of Nevada and Arizona, the other six GOP senate seats are in deep red states.

The 2020 senate map is a bit more mixed and by then who knows.
Quickly? Only 2 have been confirmed - the lowest number in 30 years for inauguration day.
 

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It comes down to whether the acceptance has to be knowing or not, in the context of the handover of management to Eric and Don Jr.

Trump has already promised that profits from businesses in other countries will be paid to the Treasury I think. So I think if he made a similar arrangement for payments from foreign govts maybe that would get around it but I dont know whether he will or not.
if you'd read the article you'd see that's not enough as he would still be violating the Clause!
 

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Depends how you define "acceptance".
 

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I agree that in current climate, it very unlikely that impeachment will be brought over this however it should still be publicized and talked about on the floor of the congress!
 
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You should lawyer up, delete Facebook, hit the gym and take a case to SCOTUS.
 

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Quickly? Only 2 have been confirmed - the lowest number in 30 years for inauguration day.
I agree with the lowest number but they haven't had the same level of vetting. I'd rather issue come up now that later on after confirmation. They become distractions then.
 

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Read the small print

if you'd read the article you'd see that's not enough as he would still be violating the Clause!
emolument: "the returns arising from office or employment usually in the form of compensation or perquisites".

Rental income which he allegedly receives from property rented out to foreign governments etc. is hardly likely to fall under the definition of an "emolument".
 


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