Trump: the obstruction of justice case

cyberianpan

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Trump has long fumed about being investigated

I think there is a strong case against him for obstruction of justice, here it is

###(1) Comey he kept asking Comey for a loyalty pledge, he put pressure on re not investigating Flynn. He keeps changing his story of the Comey firing, with the latest from Rudy:
Giuliani’s other big admission may be even worse for Trump
But Giuliani’s other admission — delivered during his interview with Sean Hannity on Wednesday night — may be more important and damning. Giuliani conceded in an offhand way that Trump fired FBI Director James B. Comey because Comey failed to do Trump’s bidding and publicly declare that Trump was not under investigation. Here’s what Giuliani said:

“He fired Comey because Comey would not, among other things, say that he wasn’t a target of the investigation,” Giuliani said. “He’s entitled to that. Hillary Clinton got that, and he couldn’t get that. So he fired him, and he said, ‘I’m free of this guy.'”
###(2) Sessions and Rosenstein Multiple threats on Twitter, numerous stories that he had to be called back from the brink on firing them

###(3) Devin Nunes et al there has been clear co-ordination with the WH, from the Erza Cohen lunacy which resulted in Nunes' recusal to the current demands for operational information on the investigation:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/us/politics/trump-justice-department-house-republicans.html of course that outed the intel on Carter Page & Boris Epshteyn
A former federal law enforcement official familiar with the department’s views said that Mr. Rosenstein and top F.B.I. officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about that investigation so that it could be shared with the White House.
Felix is a friend of Cohen's since childhood
Felix is strangely close to Semion Mogilevich
Felix is convicted in the US in the '90's for being a Russian Mobster ...but he got a plea deal

Felix supplied lots of goods to the CIA and FBI on the Russian Mob and Islamic terrorists

Trump did not know Felix was a G-Man ... Trump hired him and Tevfik Arif (a KGB handler) into the Trump Org

Here are the 3 of them singing...Sinatra appropriately



Loretta Lynch was the DA who oversaw Sater's plea bargain

This overview is tolerable How A Player In The Trump-Russia Scandal Led A Double Life As An American Spy

Trump disavowed Sater when there was a leak that gave scent of the plea bargain -- however Cohen kept up contact

Now Trump & Nunes are acting all butthurt that the FBI had an asset in their midst

All that remains is: how well did the FBI/CIA manage their asset ?
###(4) Mueller he has threatened "red lines" such as not going near hus family or business...given that he has the firing pen, this is intimidation. He also has poured scorn on the investigation, and threatened it

###(5) Witness tampering he has had both public and private contact with Flynn and Cohen for sure... publicly telling Flynn to "stay strong" and that Cohen "will never flip"

###(6) Airforce One Statement the statement re the 2016 Trump Tower meeting was false and misleading ...an attempt to cover up, and get the culprits behind a false story

###(7) Pardons his pardon of Sherif Joe and Libby Scooter were both to figures that he expressed political loyalty to...hard not to see that as a signal to Manafort, Cohen et al that they'll be looked after

I think Mueller will refer this to Congress

CyP
 
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You have a very unhealthy obsession with the great man.

How sad for you....
 

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Cyp catches up with the bleeding obvious.

Always a sight to behold.
 

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You have a very unhealthy obsession with the great man.

How sad for you....
1) it not a unhealthy obsession, he is in a powerful, powerful position which he is mentally and emotionally unsuitable for and can have deadly, long term consequences even for us here in Ireland

2) he is so not a great man
 

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- The Air Force One statement was to the media and not to the Special Counsel or the FBI. Its not a crime to lie to the press and we don't know what Trump knew about the Trump tower meeting when he assisted his son in drafting the response to it. Its possible he was being an overprotective father trying to micromanage the response impulsively.

- Giuiliani's point about firing Comey because he wouldnt publicly say Trump wasnt a target of the investigation needs to be seen in context. First of all, Comey did confirm to Congress in his testimony that he told Trump three times he was not under investigation. Rosenstein a few weeks ago also confirmed Trump is not a target of the investigation. Pressuring the FBI to simply restate publicly what they had said privately is not a crime. And the point that they did that for Hillary is important too.

- The argument about the Arpaio and Libby pardons is the weakest of all as they are not linked. I would also remind you that Libby was not the actual leaker in the Valerie Plame case. That was Richard Armitage.

- You may have a point on the issue of Trump calling it a "violation" to look into his business dealings. However he could argue he was merely expressing an opinion on what the scope of the investigation was.
 
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1) it not a unhealthy obsession, he is in a powerful, powerful position which he is mentally and emotionally unsuitable for and can have deadly, long term consequences even for us here in Ireland

2) he is so not a great man
1. Americans working and more jobs on the way

2. More people off food stamps and lowest levels of African American unemployment in history.

3. Isis wiped out in Syria as well as the end of the civil war.

4. NK and Kim bought to heel and American POWs on the way home.


If you think he is unstable for the job after all that work you are living in a fantasy world.
 

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Well this is evidence of a crime:
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The Russia Witch Hunt is rapidly losing credibility. House Intelligence Committee found No Collusion, Coordination or anything else with Russia. So now the Probe says OK, what else is there? How about Obstruction for a made up, phony crime.There is no O, it’s called Fighting Back

He is not fighting back in court, he has mounted no legal defence at all.

He is admitting he tried to close down the investigation. That is obstruction.
 

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GOP leaders are playing chicken

Devin Nunes is asking for classified operational information on the Russia investigation, and is threatening to hold DoJ /Sessions in contempt if not produced

Scalise and McCarthy are lending him words of support
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/386626-mccarthy-scalise-just-stop-short-of-calling-for-sessions-to-be-held-in

This is very obviously another attempt at obstruction of justice...what will Paul Ryan do ?

Cyp
Interestingly Fox reported today that part of the redacted DOJ info on the Flynn investigation showed that two Flynn-interrogators felt Flynn was not lying.
 

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Devin Nunes has been caught lying, seems he is trying to get at obe of Mueller's main sources
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nunes-subpoena-to-justice-dept-requested-all-documents-about-individual-described-as-longtime-intelligence-source/2018/05/09/93fbc154-53c2-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html
In an interview Wednesday, Nunes maintained that he was “not interested in any individual.”
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A subpoena that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) issued to the Justice Department last week made a broad request for all documents about an individual who people close to the matter say is a sensitive, longtime intelligence source for the CIA and FBI.

The Justice Department has refused to provide the documents. Intelligence officials say the material could jeopardize the source, a U.S. citizen who has aided the special counsel investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign.

The subpoena, which was reviewed by The Washington Post, demands “all documents referring or related to the individual referenced in Chairman Nunes’ April 24, 2018 classified letter to Attorney General Sessions.” That is the only material the subpoena seeks.
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So Devin wants the whole unvarnished truth on Felix Sater....hmmm

Devin is not very good at reading...the official records are thousands of pages...

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So Devin wants the whole unvarnished truth on Felix Sater....hmmm

Devin is not very good at reading...the official records are thousands of pages...

Cyp
So an alarming number of FBI, DoJ and other intelligence agencies have decided Sater must be protected, because he did some service to the state.

He is not a man who appears to be overly concerned about his future.

During the entire period Sater was working for Trump, he was also an FBI (and possibly CIA) informant and had some sentence hanging over his head, which has never been made public, because it was sealed in an extraordinary judicial move.

Sater became an FBI informant at exactly the same time he joined Bayrock, the tiny real estate firm run by a former Soviet official, which went on to broker huge deals for Trump.

This looks like Sater will never see the inside of a court.
 

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Without Sater et al, Trump would be penniless

Here's Donald, singing Sinatra with Felix and Tevfik...how.... appropriate


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It was this tiny little real estate company that made him. All the big plans for the Moscow Trump Tower, the emails from Sater saying "We are going to make him president".

This sure doesnt happen with McIlroy Estate Agents in Co Antrim.
 

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It was this tiny little real estate company that made him. All the big plans for the Moscow Trump Tower, the emails from Sater saying "We are going to make him president".

This sure doesnt happen with McIlroy Estate Agents in Co Antrim.
Sater has quite the rolodex... No wonder Devin Nunes is interested

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Last year, Nunes met Erik Prince to discuss his up coming testimony to HPSI. Nunes perjured himself before them - multiply.

Sounds to me like Nunes is no longer a witness in the investigation but a target of the investigation himself. Obstruction and coaching a witness?
 


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