Trump: the obstruction of justice case



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Amazing how these "Come to Jesus" moments occur with greater frequency the closer the GOP get to the Nov mid-terms...

Now they are scratching their heads and wondering aloud "What is the point of saying there was a spy in the campaign when there was none"?

Because thats what a guilty person would say, duh.
 

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He lost Gowdy...and then Ryan over this fake spy stuff, leaving him with just the rump of his party

Ryan remarks on Trump ‘Spygate’ leave conservatives fuming

Not a good return ?

Also when the next batch of indictments come out, his SpyGate stuff will prove ever more counterproductive

Cyp
Regarding Gowdy
I am amazed both his initial shocking decision to not stand for reelection, and subsequent abandonment of Trump has not been bigger news
He was seem by the cultists as their attack dog, the southern snarl topping it all off
They adored him
Wagmore used to nearly cream himself at just a mention

And as you say, now that he is gone, Trump is left with the Nunes wing
Total dregs who would promote a Piazzagate Part 2 in the drop of a hat if it got them in better with Fu*kface Von Clownstick
Nobody reams Trump better than this crew, not even Russian hoors or porn stars.

It is clear to me Gowdy weighed up the whole sh*t show and decided it was just that
A wise chap
 

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Amazing how these "Come to Jesus" moments occur with greater frequency the closer the GOP get to the Nov mid-terms...

Now they are scratching their heads and wondering aloud "What is the point of saying there was a spy in the campaign when there was none"?

Because thats what a guilty person would say, duh.
The purpose of SpyGate is to undermine the legitimacy of the initial investigation

Halper was a dud target, Mifsud is more complicated

They are also focusing on the trail around Flynn and Page

Thankfully Trump's conspiracy brewers are incompetent/ignorant

Ryan and Gowdy were both positioned for this

Rudy however, as of today, is sticking to his demands for the source material re SpyGate, as a precondition to a Trump interview

I don't think Rudy is an effective conspirator ...his only chance now is a Hail Mary on Mifsud

Cyp
 

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Rudy's strategy:

Yell and roar about how much we are opposed to Mueller's investigation, & try to undermine it

Also senile/drunky Rudy isn't really landing his punches...all he is doing is drawing attention to the fight
https://apnews.com/amp/568996508e024f95942c4c0c5314d50b?-Rudy-Giuliani-is-trying-to

Mueller is totally silent whilst Rudy/Trump knock themselves out

Then...well then...Mueller will let loose a stunning brace of indictments against many in Trump's orbit ...and incidentally show bits of Trump involvement

Then ? He will point to the Boss of Bosses...and at the obstruction attempts, the lying etc.

Cyp
 

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Rudy's strategy:

Yell and roar about how much we are opposed to Mueller's investigation, & try to undermine it

Also senile/drunky Rudy isn't really landing his punches...all he is doing is drawing attention to the fight
https://apnews.com/amp/568996508e024f95942c4c0c5314d50b?-Rudy-Giuliani-is-trying-to

Mueller is totally silent whilst Rudy/Trump knock themselves out

Then...well then...Mueller will let loose a stunning brace of indictments against many in Trump's orbit ...and incidentally show bits of Trump involvement

Then ? He will point to the Boss of Bosses...and at the obstruction attempts, the lying etc.

Cyp
Just caught up with Rudis latest - better things to do when the sun is shining - apparently, he says Mueller is trying to frame Trump.

I dont think anyone could have done more than Trump himself to frame Trump. :D

Edit:
Heres hoping one of those indictments is Ivanka. She has been in on every WH deal, has the same Russian ties as he does, is clearly being groomed in every sense of the word ...
 
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Well Ryan is covering his bases. What he actually said was "In all of this—in any of this—there has been no evidence that there is any collusion between the Trump campaign and...President Trump and Russia."

Theres been an insane amount of evidence.
 

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Trump's attempts at obstruction have yielded poor returns...and drawn attention to Mueller

Now admittedly, we are back where we were with a Hillary victory ....might the MAGA crowd go insurgent ?

That's all Trump has

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Trump's attempts at obstruction have yielded poor returns...and drawn attention to Mueller

Now admittedly, we are back where we were with a Hillary victory ....might the MAGA crowd go insurgent ?

That's all Trump has

Cyp
Oh he fantasises about a Waco-style stand-off, but this mythical base is too high on opioids to stage a putsch.
 

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I was banned on the 8th April for no reason that I know of. Trump was President when I was banned. I am still banned from most Trump and environment Threads. So have you lefties got on any further with you promise to get rid of him? Near time you delivered something?
 

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Trump has long fumed about being investigated

I think there is a strong case against him for obstruction of justice, here it is

###(1) Comey he kept asking Comey for a loyalty pledge, he put pressure on re not investigating Flynn. He keeps changing his story of the Comey firing, with the latest from Rudy:
Giuliani’s other big admission may be even worse for Trump

###(2) Sessions and Rosenstein Multiple threats on Twitter, numerous stories that he had to be called back from the brink on firing them

###(3) Devin Nunes et al there has been clear co-ordination with the WH, from the Erza Cohen lunacy which resulted in Nunes' recusal to the current demands for operational information on the investigation:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/us/politics/trump-justice-department-house-republicans.html of course that outed the intel on Carter Page & Boris Epshteyn




###(4) Mueller he has threatened "red lines" such as not going near hus family or business...given that he has the firing pen, this is intimidation. He also has poured scorn on the investigation, and threatened it

###(5) Witness tampering he has had both public and private contact with Flynn and Cohen for sure... publicly telling Flynn to "stay strong" and that Cohen "will never flip"

###(6) Airforce One Statement the statement re the 2016 Trump Tower meeting was false and misleading ...an attempt to cover up, and get the culprits behind a false story

###(7) Pardons his pardon of Sherif Joe and Libby Scooter were both to figures that he expressed political loyalty to...hard not to see that as a signal to Manafort, Cohen et al that they'll be looked after

I think Mueller will refer this to Congress

CyP
Your wasting your sweetness on the desert air.
 

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Your wasting your sweetness on the desert air.
Trump is of the Mob Boss mold

If Mueller convicts enough of his lieutenants, then Trump's obstruction becomes material, and in the popular imagination..Trump will own the work of his lieutenants

Cyp
 


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