Twilight's last gleaming... Rex Tillerson warning on end of empire

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Rex Tillerson has given a speech in which he warns that America is going downhill if it fails to address basic issues of 'integrity and ethics'. Tillerson was sacked as Secretary of State by Trump in March.

“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” Tillerson said.
American news channels are abuzz with speculation over Tillerson's intentions and are awaiting a response from the White House later in the day. Here's the Guardian version:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/16/rex-tillerson-ethics-integrity-crisis-trump

Facts? Integrity? Truth? He has an uphill battle.
 


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It seems that the mass media and large swathes of America fail to see that Trump has an uncanny knack to lie about everything even when he doesn't need to.
 

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It seems that only those who are booted out by Trump have the nerve to call him out.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJ5-jspPd4

Rex Tillerson has given a speech in which he warns that America is going downhill if it fails to address basic issues of 'integrity and ethics'. Tillerson was sacked as Secretary of State by Trump in March.



American news channels are abuzz with speculation over Tillerson's intentions and are awaiting a response from the White House later in the day. Here's the Guardian version:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/16/rex-tillerson-ethics-integrity-crisis-trump

Facts? Integrity? Truth? He has an uphill battle.
He is completely correct but the USA has been in decline for a while now anyway. It would take a great change in their moribund political system, and a positive one, not a Trumpian one, to arrest that decline. Right now both parties are the biggest part of the problem, both are working against the majority of the population as both have caught onto the movements fragmenting society there and it doesn't look like either party is learning the lessons fast enough in the Dems case or at all in the GPO's case.
They need a new third party that eschews identity politics, the need a party that looks after the middle class and the working class as a prime priority and relegates the rich as they can more than look after themselves and are eating the US alive.
 

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A great civilisation is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
 

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Rex Tillerson has given a speech in which he warns that America is going downhill if it fails to address basic issues of 'integrity and ethics'.
He is correct.

Fortunately, America dodged a bullet.

[video=youtube;7LYRUOd_QoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM[/video]

Though, Ireland still has a political party in gratitude to an oligarch, in governent.

[video=youtube;bkJE0U8Qby4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkJE0U8Qby4[/video]

[video=youtube;a67JYMhZe7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67JYMhZe7g[/video]

[video=youtube;-dY77j6uBHI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI[/video]
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJ5-jspPd4

Rex Tillerson has given a speech in which he warns that America is going downhill if it fails to address basic issues of 'integrity and ethics'. Tillerson was sacked as Secretary of State by Trump in March.



American news channels are abuzz with speculation over Tillerson's intentions and are awaiting a response from the White House later in the day. Here's the Guardian version:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/16/rex-tillerson-ethics-integrity-crisis-trump

Facts? Integrity? Truth? He has an uphill battle.
I've watched a number of his speeches on integrity in the past. He certainly impresses, but I'm never sure whether its genuine or eflection :rolleyes:
 

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He is correct.

Fortunately, America dodged a bullet.

[video=youtube;7LYRUOd_QoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM[/video]

Though, Ireland still has a political party in gratitude to an oligarch, in governent.
a movie produced by Steve Bannon should be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

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He is correct.

Fortunately, America dodged a bullet.

[video=youtube;7LYRUOd_QoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM[/video]

Though, Ireland still has a political party in gratitude to an oligarch, in governent.

Anyone: Trump is the President and ......
Analyzer: Look over there, Hillary, Clintons, blah blah...
 

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still better than citibank hilary clinton
I'm no Clinton fan, but I fail to see the difference between her and Trump when it comes to A)banking connections, B)war mongering.
Those are the two areas that Trump fans laud.

He's got Goldman Sachs running the country, and a lunatic hawk now as his Security adviser- could it be any worse ?
 

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a movie produced by Steve Bannon should be taken with a pinch of salt.
In other words, when presented with the "facts" ..... Gurdiev77 ignores the facts.
 

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Anyone: Trump is the President and ......
Analyzer: Look over there, Hillary, Clintons, blah blah...
paulp: Trump always bad, Democrats only do good, anybody who says otherwise is a pariah.
 

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I would take 'facts ' presented by Stevie with a big dose of sceptisism.

Was it you posted above above Clinton lying ?
what exactly do you ee in Trump to convince you that he tells the truth .......about anything ?
 

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I would take 'facts ' presented by Stevie with a big dose of sceptisism.

Was it you posted above above Clinton lying ?
what exactly do you ee in Trump to convince you that he tells the truth .......about anything ?
Look, you were presented with the facts. And you have denied them before even looking at them.

In fact, since the release of Clinton Cash, the level of scandal involved in the Clinton Foundation has gotten even worse.

Pay to play must also be added to the list in the documentary.

I presume you disregard that also.

I mean there is a an awful lot that is simply disregarded, for the sake of following the Dumbocrat narrative. And it simply keeps growing.
 

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Look, you were presented with the facts. And you have denied them before even looking at them.

In fact, since the release of Clinton Cash, the level of scandal involved in the Clinton Foundation has gotten even worse.

Pay to play must also be added to the list in the documentary.

I presume you disregard that also.

I mean there is a an awful lot that is simply disregarded, for the sake of following the Dumbocrat narrative. And it simply keeps growing.
I watched Clinton Cash when it came out before the election. No doubt plenty of truth in it, but over dramatised and tainted by the involvement of Bannon.

There is little to chose between the Clinton and Trump . American citizens are very badly served by their polarised left-right system in my view.

'Divide and rule ' springs to mind.
 

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I watched Clinton Cash when it came out before the election. No doubt plenty of truth in it, but over dramatised and tainted by the involvement of Bannon.

There is little to chose between the Clinton and Trump . American citizens are very badly served by their polarised left-right system in my view.

'Divide and rule ' springs to mind.
In other words, Clinton Cash is factual....but you are going to not take it seriously.

Bannon for all his flaws, did produce a documentary that nailed it. Likewise Michael Moore nailed Dubya in Fahrenheith 9-11.

As far as I am concerned, these are serious issues.

Trump is not as corrupt as Clinton. In fact even the Bush family are less corrupt than the Clintons.

Trump made it in NYC, in the 1970s and 1980s - and it is impossible to make it that big in NYC without looking after corrupt politicians, and even the mafia. But, it seems that nobody investigates that - probably because that would expose the entire system as rotten.

Tillerson is correct. In fact he should have said it 50 years ago. But we will have to settle for him saying it now.
 


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