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Two die from H1N1 flu in China


southwestkerry

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When one dies is unfortunate. When 2 die its worth a note, when 1000 die I will worry... a lot.
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firefly123

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Standard 2012-13 flu vaccine covers you...
The 2012-2013 influenza vaccine is made from the following three viruses:
an A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus;
an A/Victoria/361/2011 (H3N2)-like virus;
a B/Wisconsin/1/2010-like virus (from the B/Yamagata lineage of viruses).
While the H1N1 virus is the same as the 2011-2012 recommendation, the recommended influenza H3N2 and B vaccine viruses are different from those recommended for the Northern Hemisphere for the 2011-2012 influenza vaccine.
 

Kai123

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I'm with conspiracists on this one. I think its a load of bollocks.
 
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Standard 2012-13 flu vaccine covers you...
Perhaps.
But who (not the WHO) knows what is brewing in the human, animal and avian interface and what may next appear?
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CF4QFjAF&url=http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/169/6/151.extract&ei=ceTpUKGTEce3hQej0oCwBQ&usg=AFQjCNEgVd4qd4-gv8BfseT1n55ix5aX2g

The last swine flu vaccine has left the WHO and national health agencies with somewhat damaged reputations regarding vaccines.
My fear is that when the big one comes ( remember 1918) that the memory of 2009-2010 will tarnish the reputation of flu vaccines and the delay that results may prove disastrous.
 

Morgellons

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Two dead!!! Who cares? There's billions of them.
 

jpc

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Usual seasonal flu kills about half a million people a year. That works out at about 1 per minute, every minute of every hour of every day.

WHO | Influenza

Why do 2 deaths from flu in China make headlines?
1918
Modern global transport
 

seabhcan

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Global health care systems and understandings about how viruses spread has moved on to some degree since 1918. The argument that 'we are overdue a pandemic' is as logical as saying we are overdue a famine as we haven't had one since 1847.

The media focuses on flu for the same reason they pick all scare stories - to sell product.
 

seabhcan

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Morgellons

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Not really, around a billion, massive difference between billion and billions..
Ok-there's hundreds of millions of them then.
 

nonpartyboy

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No thankfully, but many did......it seems to me govt's only react to media created hysteria, instead of proper scientific evidence.

Was there really a requirement for a swine flu vaccine, considering all the various things that kill people over the winter months or was it just to be seen to do something ?

Nobody will ever forget ff and their iodine tablets, a momumental waste of money.
 

seabhcan

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No thankfully, but many did......it seems to me govt's only react to media created hysteria, instead of proper scientific evidence.

Was there really a requirement for a swine flu vaccine, considering all the various things that kill people over the winter months or was it just to be seen to do something ?

Nobody will ever forget ff and their iodine tablets, a momumental waste of money.
In all western countries 'the people' is shorthand for 'the media'. Politicians react to what the media tells them the people want. The people themselves are rarely asked.

We have government by the media, for the media
 

Al Gebra

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Global health care systems and understandings about how viruses spread has moved on to some degree since 1918. The argument that 'we are overdue a pandemic' is as logical as saying we are overdue a famine as we haven't had one since 1847.

The media focuses on flu for the same reason they pick all scare stories - to sell product.
But both have different causes. Famine is largely if not exclusively man made whereas pandemics are a result of viral mutations.
One has changed and one hasn't.
 

Furze

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Global health care systems and understandings about how viruses spread has moved on to some degree since 1918. The argument that 'we are overdue a pandemic' is as logical as saying we are overdue a famine as we haven't had one since 1847.

The media focuses on flu for the same reason they pick all scare stories - to sell product.
There was no famine - potato blight, yes, that destroyed the staple diet are forefathers depended on.
There were massive exports of food stock out of Ireland during that period.
 
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