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Two Houses Gutted By Loyalist Culture in Belfast.



Sword of Gideon

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"Masked loyalists appear to have broken a court order banning them from extending an Eleventh night bonfire in Belfast."

BT

They will be in contempt of court and it will be up to a judge to take the required steps to make sure that people respect the court.
"Appear" was the word used.
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction, it has to proved that they knew otherwise they cannot be held in contempt of court?
 

McSlaggart

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"Appear" was the word used.
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction, it has to proved that they knew otherwise they cannot be held in contempt of court?
Do not take this the wrong way be a lot of Judges/legal types especially Protestant ones are embarrassed by the antics around the 12th and bonfire stuff. It will depend on the Judge but if they get the wrong on then the book will be chucked in their direction.
 

Sword of Gideon

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The are wearing masks.... a judge will take that into account.
Why would he? Under The European Convention on Human Rights it is not illegal to wear a mask, it is illegal to refuse to remove it when asked or ordered to do so by a senior police officer, this may be communicated to the person by a lower ranked officer.
 

McSlaggart

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Why would he? Under The European Convention on Human Rights it is not illegal to wear a mask, it is illegal to refuse to remove it when asked or ordered to do so by a senior police officer, this may be communicated to the person by a lower ranked officer.
That is the sort of think the wee Judges like to do.... pertinent..... ie if they thought they was not doing anything illegal they would not have on a mask.
 

hollandia

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Have you seen them doing anything that is included in the injunction?
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction?
You obviously haven't read it. Let's see, entering into the property with materials likely to be used for the construction of a bonfire without the permission of the plaintiff. For a start.
 

hollandia

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a) Attempt to enter into sites situate at Ravenscroft Avenue Car Park, Bloomfield Walkway, Avoniel Leisure Centre Car Park, Inverary Playing Fields and Cregagh Park East, Belfast, without the consent of the Plaintiff, its servants or agents with materials to be used, or likely to be used for the purposes of erecting a bonfire;
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b) Enter into and/or remain at sites situate at Ravenscroft Avenue Car Park, Bloomfield Walkway, Avoniel Leisure Centre Car Park, Inverary Playing Fields and Cregagh Park East, Belfast, without the consent of the Plaintiff, its servants or agents with or without materials to be used, or likely to be used for the purposes of erecting a bonfire;

c) Remaining at sites situate at Ravenscroft Avenue Car Park, Bloomfield Walkway, Avoniel Leisure Centre Car Park, Inverary Playing Fields and Cregagh Park East, Belfast, without the consent of the Plaintiff, its servants or agents with or without materials to be used, likely to be used for the purposes of erecting a bonfire. AND IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that pursuant to Order 65 Rule 4 of the Rules of the Court of Judicature (NI) 1980 service of these proceedings be effected by affixing notice of any order made by the court to lampposts or any other conspicuous portion of the site and that the sites referenced above be identified by the maps annexed to this order at Schedule 3. AND FURTHER that the Plaintiff be granted leave to amend the title of this summons.
 

McSlaggart

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You obviously haven't read it. Let's see, entering into the property with materials likely to be used for the construction of a bonfire without the permission of the plaintiff. For a start.
The best bit is legally,,,,,,,,,,,,

"If your business burns waste in the open, such as on a bonfire, you may need a waste management licence or a registered waste exemption. You must have the correct permissions before you burn waste and you must make sure that burning the waste does not create pollution or cause a nuisance."
https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/controls-burning-waste-open
 

AhNowStop

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Cruel,but mine makes a specialty of thoroughly hoovering the bedroom at 6o'clock in the morning with the curtains open and the light on,but the schlep round the shops whilst pretending not to be hungover is also one of life's little character building joys.
The guilt ... it's all about the guilt :?
 

theloner

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"Appear" was the word used.
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction, it has to proved that they knew otherwise they cannot be held in contempt of court?
I hope they tell the judge they suddenly all started wearing balaclavas and scarves over their faces, post-injunction, because the weather got suddenly chilly, as opposed to concealing their identities. Never fear Swords, either way it should be a hoot. :D
 

mac tíre

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What legal action can be taken against them?
Is it illegal to own or use one of these vehicles?
What terms of the injunction were broken, do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction?
Have you seen them doing anything that is included in the injunction?
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction?
"Appear" was the word used.
Do you know that the people concerned knew the terms of the injunction, it has to proved that they knew otherwise they cannot be held in contempt of court?
Why would he? Under The European Convention on Human Rights it is not illegal to wear a mask, it is illegal to refuse to remove it when asked or ordered to do so by a senior police officer, this may be communicated to the person by a lower ranked officer.
Fúck me, it's Columbo.

Over a fúcking bonfire. Really?

Have your bonfire. Be nice. Make it properly cultural, without ecological and economic destruction, hatred and fear. Oh, and stop being dicks.

Case closed, Columbo.
 

theloner

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'Just one more thing......' It's the unionists on BCC that supported the injunction, from the sectarian butchers of the UVF to the religious loopers in the DUP, they put their names to the contractor.

So you need to take this up with political unionism, who it seems has colluded with the PIRA and attempted to crush the cherished Unionist Cultural Expression Zones, Penfold. Usually you couldn't get Jim Rogers to shut his cakehole for love nor money, but yesterday he was very tight lipped. Pourquoi, Briget?
 
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raetsel

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Mods, please delete this thread. The Prods aren't that thick after all. Their houses are insured! Who would've thought it and why didn't they tell us this all along?

Woman admits 'danger' of home near Belfast bonfire but is 'happy' because 'house is insured' - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
"They have a 50 foot high bonfire every year beside your house, Mrs. Happy? And did you report this as a risk factor when buying the policy, Mrs. Happy?"

I suspect that someone doesn't know how slippy the insurance business is when confronted with a claim..............
 


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