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Uber to Put 100 Autonomous Volvo SUVs on Road in Pittsburgh this month

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Uber to Put 100 Autonomous Volvo SUVs on Road in Pittsburgh - WSJ


Uber Technologies Inc. will begin using self-driving taxis to ferry customers around Pittsburgh as soon as this month, a first for the industry in a race among automobile and technology companies to make driverless cars commercially available.

Uber’s service, using specially-equipped Volvo XC90 sport-utility vehicles and Ford Focus, would appear to be the first time that commuters could hail a ride in a driverless car. But while the effort signals a breakthrough in commercialization of the technology, it won’t be a brave new world of robot cars: Two Uber employees will be sitting in the front seat of each vehicle.

One Uber employee will be in the driver’s seat with hands on the steering wheel as an emergency backup, another observing from the passenger seat, the company said. Uber will only make a few cars available to start—with the eventual goal of having 100 in Pittsburgh and possibly elsewhere in the coming months—and they will only go limited distances within the city.


The test, which could begin in as soon as two weeks, is limited. The autonomous vehicles may be assigned at random based on customers’ preference, the start location and the length of the trip.

Uber Chief Executive Travis Kalanick said the technology is necessary to lower the cost of ride hailing and car ownership, even if it means the future loss of jobs among Uber’s 1.5 million active drivers world-wide.
 


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They'd want to alright

No driver means no security, they'll be hacked and stolen almost instantly
without a driver.
 

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A futurologist on the radio this week says that by 2025 130,000 yellow cabs in New York will be replaced with 9000 autonomous vehicles. He says the vehicles will be so safe that insurance policies will be replaced by manufacturer guarantees.
I understand the whole theft thing but if you have to put your credit card on the line then (just like the city bikes in Dublin) thst will be minimised.
Shame about the thousands of jobs but it seems to be the way things go.
 

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Shame about the thousands of jobs but it seems to be the way things go.

Their is a major issue on very notion of job/work which politicians have not even started to address. To date new technology has created more jobs than it has destroyed more by good luck than any plan. This is about to change in a very big way.





"There won’t be much work for human beings. Self-driving cars will be commercially available by the end of this decade and will eventually displace human drivers—just as automobiles displaced the horse and buggy—and will eliminate the jobs of taxi, bus, and truck drivers. Drones will take the jobs of postmen and delivery people.

The debates of the next decade will be about whether we should allow human beings to drive at all on public roads. The pesky humans crash into each other, suffer from road rage, rush headlong into traffic jams, and need to be monitored by traffic police. Yes, we won’t need traffic cops either."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2014/07/21/were-heading-into-a-jobless-future-no-matter-what-the-government-does/
 

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Their is a major issue on very notion of job/work which politicians have not even started to address. To date new technology has created more jobs than it has destroyed more by good luck than any plan. This is about to change in a very big way.





"There won’t be much work for human beings. Self-driving cars will be commercially available by the end of this decade and will eventually displace human drivers—just as automobiles displaced the horse and buggy—and will eliminate the jobs of taxi, bus, and truck drivers. Drones will take the jobs of postmen and delivery people.

The debates of the next decade will be about whether we should allow human beings to drive at all on public roads. The pesky humans crash into each other, suffer from road rage, rush headlong into traffic jams, and need to be monitored by traffic police. Yes, we won’t need traffic cops either."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2014/07/21/were-heading-into-a-jobless-future-no-matter-what-the-government-does/
I can see heavy goods vehicles go automated before taxis. It makes more sense to me as they travel more slowly and on main roads to set routes. Also in terms of logistics they are much more predictable.
It will be strange seeing trucks stick to the slow lane where they belong rather than blocking the overtaking lane.
 
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in the US there are about 4 million driver jobs , not sure if that is distribution only or includes taxis but its a huge potential jobs disruption in the future.
 

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in the US there are about 4 million driver jobs , not sure if that is distribution only or includes taxis but its a huge potential jobs disruption in the future.
The thing is these jobs aren't being sent to China or wherever. They are gone.
Many of the jobs sent to the far east are now going to be automated too. The factories producing stuff will return to the west but other than a few maintenance staff they will be fully automated. It will be cheaper than basing them in China and shipping stuff back.
Ships too will become autonomous to a point.
We can't yet imagine the changes coming down the line thst will help us deal with the changes but one things for sure it won't be stopped because of some luddite objections.
 

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Drivers are really screwed.

Pizza is going to be delivered by drone in nz
Pizza drones are go! Domino's gets NZ drone delivery OK - Holly Ryan - NZ Herald - NZ Herald News



Aerial pizza delivery may sound futuristic but Domino's has been given the green light to test New Zealand pizza delivery via drones.

The fast food chain has partnered with drone business Flirtey to launch the first commercial drone delivery service in the world, starting later this year.

He said the use of drones offered a faster and safer option as well as removing barriers such as traffic and distance, meaning they could deliver further afield and faster in urban areas.
 

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If I were Volvo I'd want cash up front -

In the first quarter of this year, Uber lost about $520 million before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, according to people familiar with the matter. In the second quarter the losses significantly exceeded $750 million, including a roughly $100 million shortfall in the U.S., those people said. That means Uber's losses in the first half of 2016 totaled at least $1.27 billion.

Uber Loses at Least $1.2 Billion in First Half of 2016 - Bloomberg
 

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What happens when hackers or terrorists gain control of 100 million vehicle at once and crash them.
 

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The thing is these jobs aren't being sent to China or wherever. They are gone.
Many of the jobs sent to the far east are now going to be automated too. The factories producing stuff will return to the west but other than a few maintenance staff they will be fully automated. It will be cheaper than basing them in China and shipping stuff back.
Ships too will become autonomous to a point.
We can't yet imagine the changes coming down the line thst will help us deal with the changes but one things for sure it won't be stopped because of some luddite objections.
The ships will remain empty and the factories silent if the unemployed Luddites can't afford to buy stuff.
 

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The ships will remain empty and the factories silent if the unemployed Luddites can't afford to buy stuff.
But that's the thing. The world isn't full of unemployed basket weavers or coopers is it? People adapt. Fill niches. Upskill.
 

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But that's the thing. The world isn't full of unemployed basket weavers or coopers is it? People adapt. Fill niches. Upskill.
But that's the other thing, basket weavers and coopers actually deskilled as they moved into factories for instead of doing the whole job they found themselves operating a machine that only did part of it.
 


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