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UK Defence Review


gijoe

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Wow, Her Majesty's Navy is being given a right kick in the stern. The Ark Royal is for the knackers yard almost straight away and the surface fleet is being cut from 24 to 19 as 4000 personnel get the chop.

The Harrier is being scrapped and the Nimrod has been cancelled. Some RAF bases are to close. The Army will lose 7000 personnel and 100 tanks and artillery pieces are to be scrapped.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11570593
 

harryshounds

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the brits will always find a few shillings to pay for their irish cannon fodder for their imperial adventures around the world.
 

redtoothclaw

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The Harrier gave great service particularly in the Falklands War seeing off the best of the Argentine air force - of course the Argentinian aircraft carrier returned to port rather than risk the same fate as the battleship Belgrano sunk by a British sub which meant that Argentine pilots flying from mainland bases could only remain over the battlefield for a few minutes at a time which gave the Harrier pilots an 'unfair' advantage.
Still great jet none the less.
Shame to see it go.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf-t3gFA9JI]YouTube - Sea Harrier in the Falklands/Malvinas War[/ame]
 

Dohville

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There is already a thread in UK dealing with this.(I started it here, and it was correctly moved).
 

Edmund Blackadder

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Wow, Her Majesty's Navy is being given a right kick in the stern. The Ark Royal is for the knackers yard almost straight away and the surface fleet is being cut from 24 to 19 as 4000 personnel get the chop.

wouldnt get too depressed, they are building two super carriers and have built the 6 most expensive air defence destroyers in the world, each capable of taking on 60 air targets at the same time, remind me how many countrys can put 60 aircraft up at the same time? 1 usa 2 uk at a stretch 3 russia for 1 day a year maybe china on a very special occaision
 

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wouldnt get too depressed, they are building two super carriers and have built the 6 most expensive air defence destroyers in the world, each capable of taking on 60 air targets at the same time, remind me how many countrys can put 60 aircraft up at the same time? 1 usa 2 uk at a stretch 3 russia for 1 day a year maybe china on a very special occaision
You forgot to list the French, I am building up my stock of popcorn for that game of handbags.:shock:
 

Edmund Blackadder

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The Harrier gave great service particularly in the Falklands War seeing off the best of the Argentine air force - of course the Argentinian aircraft carrier returned to port rather than risk the same fate as the battleship Belgrano sunk by a British sub which meant that Argentine pilots flying from mainland bases could only remain over the battlefield for a few minutes at a time which gave the Harrier pilots an 'unfair' advantage.
Still great jet none the less.
Shame to see it go.



agree but we are still using them, USMC sempler fi! I can see the logic to what the brits have done, they built moun pleasant, they are building a runway on st helena so they can put fly fast jets staight to mount pleasent from the uk via gib, acension. the $ saved will pay for a pair of carriers that would allow them to park an airwing (the two carriers max air group) would be upto maybe 100 5g units, + one or two small helicopter carriers oceanic etc with their version of AH64,unless they are planning to invade the US, or its within 500 miles of PRC or Russia who would be able to stop them?, that is more than the air power of africa or south america, couple that with their TLAM armed ssn fleet and their new air defence destroyer, the worlds 2nd best amphibious fleet and it starts to look like one hell of a battle group...dumb they didnt build cvns, its goin to be one heluva gas bil!
 

Feelinglost

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the brits will always find a few shillings to pay for their irish cannon fodder for their imperial adventures around the world.
Human cannon fodder will soon be a thing of the past. American forces invaded Iraq in 2003, no robots accompanied them; by 2008, there were 12,000 participating in the war. Only a handful of drones were used in the initial invasion; today, the US military has an inventory of more than 7,000, ranging from the familiar Predator to tiny Ravens and Wasps used to transmit video images of events on the ground. Far stranger fighting machines are in the works, like swarms of lethal "cyborg insects" that could potentially replace human infantry. Sweet dreams.

[video=youtube;mclbVTIYG8E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mclbVTIYG8E[/video]

[video=youtube;hFguLwUT5lg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFguLwUT5lg[/video]​
 

Elvis jaffacake

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it's 2012/
the brits will always put themselves first.
So they should be the odd state out in the World and be completely selfless to everyone else requirements?
 

sgtharper

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Shush, you'll upset his entire world-view with complicated high-falutin' stuff like that.
 

Lain2016

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Wow, Her Majesty's Navy is being given a right kick in the stern. The Ark Royal is for the knackers yard almost straight away and the surface fleet is being cut from 24 to 19 as 4000 personnel get the chop.

wouldnt get too depressed, they are building two super carriers and have built the 6 most expensive air defence destroyers in the world, each capable of taking on 60 air targets at the same time, remind me how many countrys can put 60 aircraft up at the same time? 1 usa 2 uk at a stretch 3 russia for 1 day a year maybe china on a very special occaision
A horrendous waste of tax-payers loot, the English airforce should be scrapped and given over to privatisation. The RN should be given fishing rods and put to good use instead of sailing around pretending this is 1790...Britain cant aford to waive the rules anymore! :roll:
 

Lain2016

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Human cannon fodder will soon be a thing of the past. American forces invaded Iraq in 2003, no robots accompanied them; by 2008, there were 12,000 participating in the war. Only a handful of drones were used in the initial invasion; today, the US military has an inventory of more than 7,000, ranging from the familiar Predator to tiny Ravens and Wasps used to transmit video images of events on the ground. Far stranger fighting machines are in the works, like swarms of lethal "cyborg insects" that could potentially replace human infantry. Sweet dreams.

[video=youtube;mclbVTIYG8E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mclbVTIYG8E[/video]

[video=youtube;hFguLwUT5lg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFguLwUT5lg[/video]​

Terminator anyone...remind me how that went, oh yeh the machines decided we were a nuisance or an infection and should be wiped out.

Still if it keeps the Armscorps in a few billion schillings I suppose its worth it, eh! :(
 

Gideon

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I would remind Lain2016 that this happens to be modern times not yesteryear when there was the age of Empire everywhere so GB doesn't need to rule the waves everywhere now. He portrays the Irishman wallowing in a past that is long gone including that of Ireland unlike the majority of citizens who have progressed to modern attitudes and don't want to live in his emotional, historical rants. Tell you what. If say the Americans want robots for troops call on the SF lot as easy for affixiations mode?! Anyway the last I heard it was the British airfice as England hasn't gone away on it's own (!).
 

TheLastLazyGun

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The Royal Navy's newest warship officially joined the fleet yesterday.

HMS Dragon is the fourth of the Royal Navy's six new Daring class Type 45 destroyers.

The giant destroyer, which was built at BAE Systems in Glasgow, was commissioned in a colourful 'Christening' ceremony attended by hundreds at Portsmouth Naval Base.

With a red dragon proudly emblazoned on either side of her bow, she will be affiliated to the city of Cardiff.

Each Type 45 destroyer will be the world's most powerful air-defence warship.

In an "intensive attack" a single Type 45 could simultaneously track, engage and destroy more targets than five of the previous Type 42 destroyers operating together. The Daring class are the largest escorts ever built for the Royal Navy in terms of displacement.

Each ship's SAMPSON radar is capable of tracking an object the size of a cricket ball travelling at three times the speed of sound, and Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope has talked of the RN's pride in a Type 45 being asked to switch off PAAMS because it was "constraining the training" in exercises with US forces

After the launch of the first Type 45 destroyer, HMS Daring, on 1 February 2006 former First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West stated that it would be the Royal Navy's most capable destroyer ever, as well as the world's best air-defence ship.

One Type 45, HMS Dauntless, has been sent to defend the Falklands. It is said that it is powerful enough to destroy the entire Argentine Air Force.

HMS Defender is to be commissioned in 2013 and HMS Duncan in 2014. Defender is to arrive in Portsmouth later this year for sea trials.


Navy's HMS Dragon commissioned at Portsmouth Naval Base


20 April 2012
BBC News


HMS Dragon is the fourth of six new Type 45 Destroyers

The Royal Navy's latest warship has officially joined the fleet.

Type 45 Destroyer HMS Dragon was commissioned in a colourful 'Christening' ceremony attended by hundreds at Portsmouth Naval Base.

The vessel is the fourth ship of its kind built by BAE Systems in Glasgow and will be affiliated to Cardiff.



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