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likesfish

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Ireland off the coast of the UK it faces no realistic conventional military threats
 


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UK defence spending over the last five years has been stable at around £36 billion in real terms. By 2019/20defence spending is planned to be £37.6 billion. The UK has achieved the NATO 2% target in each of the last eight years.

Ireland’s defence spending is lowest in Europe at 0.3% of GDP

FG are a disgrace.
We should be spending more.
Show me any party or even any majority of the public for increasing spending. The reality is any major spending increase would hit straight against "but what about the local school/housing list/hospital lists etc".
 

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I doubt they will cancel but will they reduce the number ordered?


The Ministry of Defence says it is reviewing the status of its F-35 stealth jets after an F-35 owned by Japan crashed in the Pacific....Britain's RAF and Royal Navy currently have 17 F-35B jets in total, but the Ministry of Defence has pledged to buy 138.
 

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I do not see why a single crash would cancel the order. It cannot be reduced because the number of aircraft ordered are the number deemed needed and there is no other fighter that can replace those numbers.
I would be cautious about use of the word "cannot" - as we are seeing with the 737max - a plane that requires software to stay flying might not be as much as "sure thing" as originally envisaged.
 

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military jets crash not quite as badly as they used think 1/3rd of the total production run of the Sea Vixen crashed
 

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I would be cautious about use of the word "cannot" - as we are seeing with the 737max - a plane that requires software to stay flying might not be as much as "sure thing" as originally envisaged.
There is no other like for like jet fighter. The odd crash is no reason to bin a fighter.

Fighters crash every now and then for lots of reasons. I remember a U.S.A.F. one crashing in East Anglia a few years back - there was no talk of grounding the fleet.
 

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There is no other like for like jet fighter. The odd crash is no reason to bin a fighter.

Fighters crash every now and then for lots of reasons. I remember a U.S.A.F. one crashing in East Anglia a few years back - there was no talk of grounding the fleet.
Correct, but I'd say a lot of german pilots wished the starfighter was grounded

 

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ah the widowmaker, basically a missile with short wings
Ironically it was the commitment to buy another suspect yank plane (F-111) that plane that effectively killed off Britain's fighter industry


Aeronautical engineer Sir Sydney Camm (designer of the Hawker Hurricane) said of the TSR-2: "All modern aircraft have four dimensions: span, length, height and politics. TSR-2 simply got the first three right."[94]
 

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ah the widowmaker, basically a missile with short wings
That was corruption and a truly insane idea to turn a dubious clear weather interceptor into an all weather attack aircraft.
Not helped with German pilots having inadequate training.
 

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Wow, Her Majesty's Navy is being given a right kick in the stern. The Ark Royal is for the knackers yard almost straight away and the surface fleet is being cut from 24 to 19 as 4000 personnel get the chop.

The Harrier is being scrapped and the Nimrod has been cancelled. Some RAF bases are to close. The Army will lose 7000 personnel and 100 tanks and artillery pieces are to be scrapped.

Cameron unveils armed forces cuts
Good, the only reason they need a lot of expensive kit is to traipse around the world bombing poor brown folk and robbing their resources.

What they need to do is to make the UK an equal Democratic society, where even those at the bottom of the pile are set free 🙂
 

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unfortunatly your sadly out of date two huge new carriers loaded with with f35 stealth jets and even taking a USMC squadron along for the fun of bombing brown people.
new build P8 maritime patrol aircraft along with the type 26 frigate mean the trident boats will be safe making anysort of revenge impossible
 

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