UK Military describe Russian planes flying within Russia as 'act of aggression'

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More politically motivated press releases from the UK military.

Typhoon jets intercept Russian planes that committed 'act of aggression' | UK news | The Guardian

3 Russian cargo planes flying within Russian airspace were 'intercepted' by the UK military based in Estonia.

"Britain’s defence secretary, Michael Fallon, described it as an “act of Russian aggression”."

So Russian planes are seen in Russian airspace. UK planes 'scramble' to 'intercept' the Russian planes - except, they don't because the Russian planes never leave Russian airspace, and the UK planes never enter Russian airspace. Intercepted how exactly?

“The scramble went exactly as planned, we launched our Typhoon aircraft quickly and then using our advanced sensors and mission systems, combined with support from our battlespace managers on the ground, carried out textbook intercepts of the three aircraft.”

Sounds more like a training exercise, followed by an overly active PR department putting out a press release, which is then reprinted verbatim by the Great British Press.

Whats the motivation for this kind of propaganda?
 


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Whats the motivation for this kind of propaganda?
To bolster NATOs fading glory now being dismantled slowly by America.

Idiot career generals and colonels, with little to do, must sabre rattle every now and then to justify defunct war plans.


Politicians on the make often listen to them usually with disastrous results.
EG :Iraq War etc.
 
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US/NATO want to break up the Russian Federation

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/asia/1997-09-01/geostrategy-eurasia

Given the country's size and diversity, a decentralized political system and free-market economics would be most likely to unleash the creative potential of the Russian people and Russia's vast natural resources. A loosely confederated Russia -- composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic -- would also find it easier to cultivate closer economic relations with its neighbors. Each of the confederated entitles would be able to tap its local creative potential, stifled for centuries by Moscow's heavy bureaucratic hand. In turn, a decentralized Russia would be less susceptible to imperial mobilization.
Geostrategic success in that venture would be a fitting legacy to America's role as the first and only global superpower.
 

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More politically motivated press releases from the UK military.

Typhoon jets intercept Russian planes that committed 'act of aggression' | UK news | The Guardian

3 Russian cargo planes flying within Russian airspace were 'intercepted' by the UK military based in Estonia.

"Britain’s defence secretary, Michael Fallon, described it as an “act of Russian aggression”."

So Russian planes are seen in Russian airspace. UK planes 'scramble' to 'intercept' the Russian planes - except, they don't because the Russian planes never leave Russian airspace, and the UK planes never enter Russian airspace. Intercepted how exactly?

“The scramble went exactly as planned, we launched our Typhoon aircraft quickly and then using our advanced sensors and mission systems, combined with support from our battlespace managers on the ground, carried out textbook intercepts of the three aircraft.”

Sounds more like a training exercise, followed by an overly active PR department putting out a press release, which is then reprinted verbatim by the Great British Press.

Whats the motivation for this kind of propaganda?
not sure whether the planes were in russia airspace or international?
 

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Its all a continuation of the well known plan to nuke Russia, kill everybody, take over the whole place and steal all the vodka. Everybody can see through this rather transparent scheme thankfully.
 

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More politically motivated press releases from the UK military.
The source is given as the Defence Secretary, who is a politician an not a member of the armed forces, so this quote is not "from the UK military". As for being "politically motivated", it appears to be a simple statement of fact.

3 Russian cargo planes flying within Russian airspace were 'intercepted' by the UK military based in Estonia.

"Britain’s defence secretary, Michael Fallon, described it as an “act of Russian aggression”."

So Russian planes are seen in Russian airspace. UK planes 'scramble' to 'intercept' the Russian planes - except, they don't because the Russian planes never leave Russian airspace, and the UK planes never enter Russian airspace. Intercepted how exactly?
Easy, we're talking about a small country here remember, the RAF a/c launch and head on an interception course for the Russian a/c which are still withing Russian airspace but on a course to enter Baltic airspace. As they approach the border the Russians realise they've been rumbled and alter course, turning away and remaining within their own airspace. Simple

The RAF Typhoons were launched from Amari air base in Estonia on Thursday afternoon when the Russian military transport aircraft did not transmit a recognised identification code and appeared to be unresponsive.

“The scramble went exactly as planned, we launched our Typhoon aircraft quickly and then using our advanced sensors and mission systems, combined with support from our battlespace managers on the ground, carried out textbook intercepts of the three aircraft.”

Sounds more like a training exercise, followed by an overly active PR department putting out a press release, which is then reprinted verbatim by the Great British Press.
No, it doesn't sound like a training exercise at all:roll:, it sounds like the RAF putting into action a planned and rehearsed response to a particular scenario, Russian a/c approaching the border and on course to cross it.

Whats the motivation for this kind of propaganda?
Who says it's propaganda? It's a statement of fact as far as I can see, and how come you're less than bothered by the dangerous and provocative behaviour of the Russians?
 

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More politically motivated press releases from the UK military.

Typhoon jets intercept Russian planes that committed 'act of aggression' | UK news | The Guardian

3 Russian cargo planes flying within Russian airspace were 'intercepted' by the UK military based in Estonia.

"Britain’s defence secretary, Michael Fallon, described it as an “act of Russian aggression”."

So Russian planes are seen in Russian airspace. UK planes 'scramble' to 'intercept' the Russian planes - except, they don't because the Russian planes never leave Russian airspace, and the UK planes never enter Russian airspace. Intercepted how exactly?

“The scramble went exactly as planned, we launched our Typhoon aircraft quickly and then using our advanced sensors and mission systems, combined with support from our battlespace managers on the ground, carried out textbook intercepts of the three aircraft.”

Sounds more like a training exercise, followed by an overly active PR department putting out a press release, which is then reprinted verbatim by the Great British Press.

Whats the motivation for this kind of propaganda?
You are plainly a stooge of the Kremlin, either by virtue of derangement, or emolument

The profile of those planes is similar to that of strategic bombers, their trajectory and speed indicated a likely incursion ...safeguards that could have explained away such, were not deployed

It is quite possible that Uncle Vlad orchestrated the whole event purely for trolls such as you to be in a position to sow dissent

cYp
 

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Its all a continuation of the well known plan to nuke Russia, kill everybody, take over the whole place and steal all the vodka. Everybody can see through this rather transparent scheme thankfully.
Don't forget the land invasion. It's gonna be tropic!
 

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As if things couldn't get worse... I hear the Germans are once again marching through Berlin.

Will this very faint rattling of sabres never end.
 

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The scramble was apparently quite justified.

But the claim of a "act of aggression" is extremely dangerous. An "act of aggression" is a cause for war. Combined with some BBC articles on "Russia's war" in Syria lately, this sounds like the Brits are considering starting one.
 

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it does not matter what the UK military say- they no longer have the forces to engage in a major war.

It is a measure of how their stature has fallen that NATO jokes the BA no longer has the capacity to put "boots on the ground", but " a few sandals in the sand".

When Russian subs monitor the Trident Fleet in the North Sea - the nuclear subs remember - the British have had to beg the French for the loan of a plane to patrol their own territorial waters.
 

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I would have thought it pretty natural to want to know why several foreign long-range bombers flying towards your airspace who did not respond to radio inquiries were up to and to make a demonstration that continuing to flyinto one's own territory without clarifying the purpose of the flight might not be very welcome.

Isn't the only story here that the Russian military is using their long-range bombers or planes that look like long-range bombers to play the military equivalent of mooning over the garden fence at their neighbours?

What's new?
 

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A UK politician said this, not the UK military. From the sources here I do not see that the military did or said anything wrong. (A scramble in NATO airspace was their right).

Worst case: there might be a scenario in the works with the UK taking up a fake "act of aggression" to declare war then invoke NATO.
 


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