UK Quality Care Commission: Marie Stopes paid staff bonuses for encouraging women to have abortions

Ulpian

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Details here: Marie Stopes abortion provider 'paid its staff bonuses' | Daily Mail Online

and here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-encouraged-to-undergo-abortion-by-maidstone-staff-wanting-bonus-705xmftb2

Inspectors found evidence of a policy – in place across all 70 Marie Stopes clinics in the country – whereby staff were told to call women who had decided not to have an abortion, and offer them a new appointment.

They also uncovered a document referring to a 'company-wide focus' on women who weren't going ahead with abortions, who were referred to as 'Did Not Proceed' patients.

'Staff were concerned that 'Did Not Proceed', the term used when women decided not to proceed with treatment, was measured as a KPI (key performance indicator) and linked to their performance bonus. They felt that this encouraged staff to ensure that patients underwent procedures
So the next time a pro-choicer talks about "non-directive counselling" covering "all options" remember this.

Remember also that legalising elective abortion in Ireland will lead to a culture where abortion is normalised as a value choice, where men feel justified to tell their partners "get rid of it" in a way that they do not in Ireland now.
 


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I guess it's a business and money counts? They are in competition with BPAS.
 

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That’s incredibly serious and you would expect to see folks getting sacked at a high level and clear rewriting of procedures. Utterly unacceptable.
 

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Details here: Marie Stopes abortion provider 'paid its staff bonuses' | Daily Mail Online

and here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-encouraged-to-undergo-abortion-by-maidstone-staff-wanting-bonus-705xmftb2



So the next time a pro-choicer talks about "non-directive counselling" covering "all options" remember this.

Remember also that legalising elective abortion in Ireland will lead to a culture where abortion is normalised as a value choice, where men feel justified to tell their partners "get rid of it" in a way that they do not in Ireland now.
It's a Business - a pretty sordid one mind - but a Business none the less.

The Abortion rates are so high in UK that they cannot be explained any other way

- than there is an active encouragement for women to have Abortions...

Circa 185,000 abortions per annum is Nuts!
 
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Unprofrofessional, unethical and I've no problem in saying that it should be cracked down on by the CQC and referred on to the police.
 
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Pretty quiet in here.

I thought this would have provoked uproar.
 

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Stopes was strongly against the termination of a pregnancy; during her lifetime her clinics did not offer abortions. Stopes thought birth control was the only means families should use to limit their number of offspring. Nurses at Stopes' clinic had to sign a declaration not to "impart any information or lend any assistance whatsoever to any person calculated to lead to the destruction in utero of the products of conception".[56] When Stopes learned that one of Avro Manhattan's friends had had an abortion, Stopes accused him of murdering the unborn child.[57]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Stopes#Views_on_abortion

Stopes was against Abortion.

Her name shouldn't be used at these places.
 

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That’s incredibly serious and you would expect to see folks getting sacked at a high level and clear rewriting of procedures. Utterly unacceptable.
They're killing babies, ffs! How much more serious could it possibly get?

(I'm not having a go at you)
 

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Not surprisingly - this is 'fake news' from the right-wing media

https://mariestopes.org/news/2017/10/daily-mail-article-statement-and-fact-check/
The core claims, repeated in a number of papers are quotes from the report. The report apparently states that staff believed they were KPIs.

The report also states the minutes supported the claim that they called people with offers.

"Minutes dated 15 July 2015 recorded a company-wide focus on ‘Do not proceeds’. Where a patient of less than 5 weeks and three days gestation had decided not to go ahead with the termination they were being called and offered a later appointment."
So you either believe that all these different media sources are sharing text of the same lie, or your problems with the report, not the media.
 

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The Care Quality Commission in England has found that nearly 400 botched abortions were performed at Marie Stopes run clinics in a two month period during January and February 2017.

The CQC also found that over a three month period, 11 women had to be rushed to emergency departments in nearby hospitals following complications that arose during abortion procedures at a number of Marie Stopes clinics. And the report reveals that in some cases consent for carrying out abortions was obtained from women only after the pregnancies had been terminated.
Hundreds of young and vulnerable women seeking abortions are to be sent to other clinics after some services run by Marie Stopes International were suspended because of inspectors’ safety concerns.
Marie Stopes suspends some abortion services over safety issues

This is what Pro-Choicetokill have to offer to women and their babies in Ireland
 

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Details here: Marie Stopes abortion provider 'paid its staff bonuses' | Daily Mail Online

and here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-encouraged-to-undergo-abortion-by-maidstone-staff-wanting-bonus-705xmftb2



So the next time a pro-choicer talks about "non-directive counselling" covering "all options" remember this.

Remember also that legalising elective abortion in Ireland will lead to a culture where abortion is normalised as a value choice, where men feel justified to tell their partners "get rid of it" in a way that they do not in Ireland now.


This is why abortion services should be provided by the public hospitals.

Disgusting behaviour.
 

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Pro-Choice hypocrisy. Who do you think is pushing abortion and why - it's a frikkin' business.
When Marie Stopes was implicated in the death of a woman from Ireland Pro-Choice were falling over themselves to say that it couldn't possibly be the fault of Marie Stopes.
Colin Gibbs from the Crown Prosecution Service revealed to the court that Ms Chithira suffered internal tears, major blood loss and that she had then collapsed on the floor hyperventilating. She was then discharged several hours later at 8.30pm and put in a taxi..
 

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Pro-Choice hypocrisy. Who do you think is pushing abortion and why - it's a frikkin' business.
When Marie Stopes was implicated in the death of a woman from Ireland Pro-Choice were falling over themselves to say that it couldn't possibly be the fault of Marie Stopes.


Nope, I am against the provision of medical care by private instead of public means.

Perfectly consistent.
 

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Nope, I am against the provision of medical care by private instead of public means.

Perfectly consistent.
Why? Is it an ideological thing?

Should we close all private hospitals and leave everybody at the mercy of an underfunded public system?

Would you advise women travelling for an abortion to avoid private clinics?
 

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Pro-Choice hypocrisy. Who do you think is pushing abortion and why - it's a frikkin' business.
When Marie Stopes was implicated in the death of a woman from Ireland Pro-Choice were falling over themselves to say that it couldn't possibly be the fault of Marie Stopes.
That would be the case where the prosecution offered no evidence and Stopes received no censure at all correct? The case where the judge reamed the prosecution for wasting time and money? That case?
 


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