UK Trident Nuke test "several thousand miles" off target

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It has been revealed that a test of trident nuclear missile system last year was off target by "several thousand miles"
This fact was deliberately hidden from the parliament debate on renewing trident.

In June last year, the Royal Navy test-fired an unarmed Trident II D5 ballistic missile. The weapon is 13 metres long, weighs 60 tonnes and can carry nuclear warheads with up to eight times the destructive capacity of the bombs that hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the second world war. The navy likes to boast about the missile’s accuracy: it can hit a target 4,000 nautical miles away and be accurate to within a few metres.

The problem is that when HMS Vengeance, one of the UK’s four nuclear submarines, test-fired the missile off the coast of Florida, the missile was not out by a few metres but several thousand miles. It had been targeted at the southern Atlantic off the coast of west Africa. Instead, it was heading in the opposite direction, over the US.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/23/how-did-the-trident-test-fail-and-what-did-theresa-may-know

I think the most worrying thing in this article for me was this bit:

According to defence sources, the missile did not veer off in the wrong direction because it was faulty but because the information relayed to it was faulty. This explanation is not reassuring.

The missile was not armed with a nuclear warhead but contained a small amount of explosives. It was detonated when the order was given to abort the test.

Some analysts say the fact that UK tests are infrequent is not important because the US tests much more frequently and both share the underlying technology.
So can we really trust these expensive and dangerous systems
if they can go so badly wrong in test and miss their target by thousands of miles?

Wouldn't the UK public be better served by putting all those wasted billions into the NHS
rather than into some daft nuclear annihilation revenge program that doesn't even seem to work very well?
 


eoghanacht

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Throw a picture of Corbyn dancing or sitting on a train, Pavlov's dogs of P.ie need the trigger.
 

Prof Honeydew

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Was its flight path based on projections for the uuuuuuge increase in Britain's power, prestige and wealth following Brexit?
 
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where did it land?
The problem is that when HMS Vengeance, one of the UK’s four nuclear submarines, test-fired the missile off the coast of Florida, the missile was not out by a few metres but several thousand miles. It had been targeted at the southern Atlantic off the coast of west Africa. Instead, it was heading in the opposite direction, over the US.
They are being a bit vague about where exactly it was when it was detonated but it was likely zooming close to or over the US mainland
 

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They fired it the night of the BREXIT Referendum and they thought it'd detonate in Brussels but it landed in Michigan with Donald Trump lookalike still riding it to the end.

 

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They are being a bit vague about where exactly it was when it was detonated but it was likely zooming close to or over the US mainland
Could they adjust for the next test to get the White House ?
 

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It has been revealed that a test of trident nuclear missile system last year was off target by "several thousand miles"
This fact was deliberately hidden from the parliament debate on renewing trident.



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/23/how-did-the-trident-test-fail-and-what-did-theresa-may-know

I think the most worrying thing in this article for me was this bit:



So can we really trust these expensive and dangerous systems
if they can go so badly wrong in test and miss their target by thousands of miles?

Wouldn't the UK public be better served by putting all those wasted billions into the NHS
rather than into some daft nuclear annihilation revenge program that doesn't even seem to work very well?

So all the UK has to do is threaten to press the firing button and the entire planet will tremble for good reason.
 

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You have to wonder about the state of all this very old tech. 30 years after the end of the cold war - does any of this stuff still work?
 

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Nerdy point here - the UK doesnt actually own any missiles, they are a "shared asset" with the US.

The UK can draw on up to 58 missiles for its own use. When they are selected for a test, they are transferred from the US navy to the UK and the warhead package mated to the missile. So this could just as easily have happened on a US sub as a UK one.

The launches are incredibly difficult to do but very reliable, so if one goes wrong that tells you a lot about potential problems.

The Russians have a 50% failure rate with their missile launches. There have been 164 tests of this missile without failure by the US and UK so far - this is the first one.

So although it sounds a big deal it isnt really.

Mind you, i still think Trident is a waste of money.
 


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