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Unionism in Crises


ArtyisBack

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Today we see that the number of those who identify themselves as British has fallen from a majority to a plurality. Those who call themselves protestant has also fallen to a plurality. One of the reasons for partition, to preserve a Protestant Ascendancy no longer applies.

The growing number of people who identify themselves as Irish are starting to make their presence felt and pro-Irish cultural expression and symbolism is being demanded and being achieved in the public sphere.

Unionism cannot cope. The "flegs" issue is a symptom of this malaise, the malaise of not wanting Irish or their cultural expression around the place.

Now the outcome of the "fleg" at belfast is in no way a nationalist solution. It still proclaims unionist supremacy in Belfast, a city were the census show that they are in a minority. However any diminition, no ridiculous the perception, cannot be dealt with. So the more extreme unionists rounded on the moderate ones in the Alliance Party, basically blaming them for lundyism in the face of a nationalist siege. They do not see that the Alliance Party achieved a result for unionism. Blind extremism indeed.

The unionists from the estates have rebelled. The UUP and DUP have created a monster which they have lost control off. McCrea was ran from a protest in Cookstown with yous (the DUP) are finished ringing in his ears. Tonight Jeffery Donaldson and Edwin Poots gets their lives threatened. Marchers walking with banners proclaiming that democracy does not work.

In short the unionists are in crises. Protestant Ulster is no more. It is not even British now. No one can tell how it will develop. But one thing is sure. It will not be the Ulster of 10 or 20 years ago. That Ulster is finished, what happens now?
 

between the bridges

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25% Irish. Merry Xmas and a happy Union...
 

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Today we see that the number of those who identify themselves as British has fallen from a majority to a plurality. Those who call themselves protestant has also fallen to a plurality. One of the reasons for partition, to preserve a Protestant Ascendancy no longer applies.

The growing number of people who identify themselves as Irish are starting to make their presence felt and pro-Irish cultural expression and symbolism is being demanded and being achieved in the public sphere.

Unionism cannot cope. The "flegs" issue is a symptom of this malaise, the malaise of not wanting Irish or their cultural expression around the place.

Now the outcome of the "fleg" at belfast is in no way a nationalist solution. It still proclaims unionist supremacy in Belfast, a city were the census show that they are in a minority. However any diminition, no ridiculous the perception, cannot be dealt with. So the more extreme unionists rounded on the moderate ones in the Alliance Party, basically blaming them for lundyism in the face of a nationalist siege. They do not see that the Alliance Party achieved a result for unionism. Blind extremism indeed.

The unionists from the estates have rebelled. The UUP and DUP have created a monster which they have lost control off. McCrea was ran from a protest in Cookstown with yous (the DUP) are finished ringing in his ears. Tonight Jeffery Donaldson and Edwin Poots gets their lives threatened. Marchers walking with banners proclaiming that democracy does not work.

In short the unionists are in crises. Protestant Ulster is no more. It is not even British now. No one can tell how it will develop. But one thing is sure. It will not be the Ulster of 10 or 20 years ago. That Ulster is finished, what happens now?
A VERY bad week for unionism. First they make such spectacular tits of themselves, at the very moment the US Sec of State pops in for a visit, then the census results are released indicating what we all knew for many years now, a much smaller gap between Catholics and Protestants. A very merry Xmas for the Irish people. :D

 

vinoboy

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Do not think anybody gives a fig about what Hilary Clinton thinks .
 

Mickeymac

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A VERY bad week for unionism. First they make such spectacular tits of themselves, at the very moment the US Sec of State pops in for a visit, then the census results are released indicating what we all knew for many years now, a much smaller gap between Catholics and Protestants. A very merry Xmas for the Irish people. :D



You have no idea the joy your pic brings to me, icing on the cake will be the National Flag of Ireland hoisted there soon.
 

Ren84

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Always said the above sir, but recent events have changed my wishes for the future.
Well if unionists don't want a shared space then all emblems and symbols both sides cherish should be banned.
 

ArtyisBack

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Obvious the unionist trolls have no answer. They know that Project ulster is finished, they know that the Unionist hegemony is finished and they know that the greening of the region will continue and they are powerless to stop it. They cannot even shoot a few fenians to put them in their box any more. Hence the banners denouncing democracy, the refusal to accept democratic decisions, the attacks on democratic parties, the attacks on democratically elected representatives and death threats to democrats.

They have seriously lost the plot and are in crises mode.
 

Mickeymac

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Well if unionists don't want a shared space then all emblems and symbols both sides cherish should be banned.


Why should bigoted unionists dictate the pace of change given the democratic vote at City Hall and the census results?
 

between the bridges

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best.day.on.p.ie.ever.
 

Ren84

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Why should bigoted unionists dictate the pace of change given the democratic vote at City Hall and the census results?
Who says anything about letting them dictate to the rest of us? If unionists don't wish to allow for an equal representation of symbols then the UF and all other loyalist paraphernalia should be done away with as well. Unionists are very lucky that there is still a union flag flying on certain days from Stormont and City Hall. Personally I feel the flag should have been permanently taken down due to the discrimination afforded to the flag of nearly half the people of NI, the Tricolour. If unionists were to allow the Tricolour fly from public buildings then their own flag should be flown as well.
 

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Who says anything about letting them dictate to the rest of us? If unionists don't wish to allow for an equal representation of symbols then the UF and all other loyalist paraphernalia should be done away with as well. Unionists are very lucky that there is still a union flag flying on certain days from Stormont and City Hall. Personally I feel the flag should have been permanently taken down due to the discrimination afforded to the flag of nearly half the people of NI, the Tricolour. If unionists were to allow the Tricolour fly from public buildings then their own flag should be flown as well.

Your post above Ren is similar to a message I posted some ten years ago on another forum.

I got sh1t from both sides at the time for even suggesting such a thing.
 

vinoboy

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There is still time to take the path Billy Leonard took, the ex SF Protestant MLA for East Derry.
It`s always a good feeling to be on the winning side of history..it`s not too late for you Bridges:)
Is that the guy who was "advised" by SF to go and lie down in a dark room with a bottle of Bush and his former service revolver ?
 

vinoboy

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Your post above Ren is similar to a message I posted some ten years ago on another forum.

I got sh1t from both sides at the time for even suggesting such a thing.
FFS -Ren is another sock of Mmac and Le Hash . What a nauseous love in.
 

sowhat

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Is that the guy who was "advised" by SF to go and lie down in a dark room with a bottle of Bush and his former service revolver ?
He is an ex-Orangeman/RUC man who saw the light and became a Republican. He was a SF politician for East Derry before standing down at the last election to write a book called `Towards a United Ireland`.

He is an inspiration to us all.
 

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He is an ex-Orangeman/RUC man who saw the light and became a Republican. He was a SF politician for East Derry before standing down at the last election to write a book called `Towards a United Ireland`.

He is an inspiration to us all.
Are you an ex Orangeman/RUC man who has seen the light too?
 
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