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United Ireland Tracker-Thread


ruserious

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This thread is being opened with the purpose of tacking developments relevant to a potential United Ireland.

Brexit has brought a fresh impetus to the unification of Ireland; in no short part due to the over-exuberance of English Nationalism and the DUP. The GFA brought a comfort zone for nationalists living in an uncomfortable Union. Now that the GFA is under threat, Irish nationalists in the North are once more cut adrift from the political system and are looking South. And we are listening: "never again will be left behind by an Irish government".

So please use this thread for linking to polls or news stories relevant to a United Ireland.

Let me start:
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell reaffirms support for united Ireland

This is great news because it reinforces the DUP to not bring down the Tories in favour of Labour which gives May wiggle room to accept a backstop.
 


PBP voter

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Good idea for a thread.


[video=youtube;IbSGp4WIBsQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSGp4WIBsQ&t=2s[/video]

Star Trek prediction :geek:

Odds
Vote on Irish Unification to pass before Jan 1st 2020
50/1
PP.
 

blinding

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This thread is being opened with the purpose of tacking developments relevant to a potential United Ireland.

Brexit has brought a fresh impetus to the unification of Ireland; in no short part due to the over-exuberance of English Nationalism and the DUP. The GFA brought a comfort zone for nationalists living in an uncomfortable Union. Now that the GFA is under threat, Irish nationalists in the North are once more cut adrift from the political system and are looking South. And we are listening: "never again will be left behind by an Irish government".

So please use this thread for linking to polls or news stories relevant to a United Ireland.

Let me start:
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell reaffirms support for united Ireland

This is great news because it reinforces the DUP to not bring down the Tories in favour of Labour which gives May wiggle room to accept a backstop.
Preparations must be made . The Demographics are stark . It will happen within the next Ten years and possibly Five .
 

Talk Back

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Good idea for a thread.


[video=youtube;IbSGp4WIBsQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSGp4WIBsQ&t=2s[/video]

Star Trek prediction :geek:

Odds
Vote on Irish Unification to pass before Jan 1st 2020
50/1
PP.
Not far wrong - there will be a voting Nationalist majority in 2022.
 

michael-mcivor

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The English / Unionists regret they ever signed up to the Good Friday agreement - The Republican movement blind sighted them in another spectacular - Brexit will make the United Ireland come quicker but it's only because of the foresight of Sinn Fein and friends-
 

PBP voter

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The English / Unionists regret they ever signed up to the Good Friday agreement - The Republican movement blind sighted them in another spectacular - Brexit will make the United Ireland come quicker but it's only because of the foresight of Sinn Fein and friends-
It's worthless really. All international agreements are.

Just ask the Palestinians.

Scotland got their ref without any international agreement and bottled it.

I would think the English would prefer to keep Scotland than NI.
 
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blinding

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It's worthless really. All international agreements are.

Just ask the Palestinians.

Scotland got their ref without any international agreement and bottled it.

I would think the English would prefer to keep Scotland than NI.
The Scots swallowed some guff from the Establishment in the last weeks of that referendum . They bottled it .
 

michael-mcivor

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It's worthless really. All international agreements are.

Just ask the Palestinians.

Scotland got their ref without any international agreement and bottled it.

I would think the English would prefer to keep Scotland than NI.
its stopping the English / Torys from their Brexit which they voted for- The GFA vote has the power- The Brexit vote has no power- Theresa May is looking to stay in the EU for another year-Lol- GFA is the King- not the English voters-
 

Karloff

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Good idea for a thread.


[video=youtube;IbSGp4WIBsQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSGp4WIBsQ&t=2s[/video]

Star Trek prediction :geek:

Odds
Vote on Irish Unification to pass before Jan 1st 2020
50/1
PP.
Looking forward to the new Picard show, well half desperately salivating for a Star Trek show with Picard in it, half filling up with dread (Star wars and Star Trek reboots in mind).

Not in favour of a United Ireland. People do not realise that political and national stability is the greatest most precious thing, just because you have it for a long time does not make it less valuable and worthy of being cherished, does not mean you can take it for granted. I do not take it for granted, most of our history over the last thousand years has been filled with tragedy and injustice and turmoil, appreciate political stability and i think far from West Britonising the Republic we should be going greener, celebrating our Irishness and rejecting the pro empire culture of revisionism which runs unchecked throughout our universities politics and media.
 

Mickeymac

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This thread is being opened with the purpose of tacking developments relevant to a potential United Ireland.

Brexit has brought a fresh impetus to the unification of Ireland; in no short part due to the over-exuberance of English Nationalism and the DUP. The GFA brought a comfort zone for nationalists living in an uncomfortable Union. Now that the GFA is under threat, Irish nationalists in the North are once more cut adrift from the political system and are looking South. And we are listening: "never again will be left behind by an Irish government".

So please use this thread for linking to polls or news stories relevant to a United Ireland.

Let me start:
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell reaffirms support for united Ireland

This is great news because it reinforces the DUP to not bring down the Tories in favour of Labour which gives May wiggle room to accept a backstop.


Good OP sir and will join you in inviting all the latest on the march to Unification.
 

Man or Mouse

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It's worthless really. All international agreements are.

Just ask the Palestinians.

Scotland got their ref without any international agreement and bottled it.

I would think the English would prefer to keep Scotland than NI.
Remember the Palestinians were once the Philistines. Did they play fair back then?

On the other matter, a total no brainer that the English would prefer to keep Scotland over NI. The poor old Jaffas love is not reciprocated.
 

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Niall996

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It's not surprising that the large majority would vote for a UI but it is interesting to see such a large chunk opposed and one would like to get more detail on their reasoning. Whether accurate, true or not, below are the key ones I would suggest:

We know there has always been the rump remains of the previous Anglo Irish/Unionist culture hanging around, trying to sabotage the state at various times, undermining Irishness wherever possible. And their West Brit acolytes and wannabees.

There will be a subset who just can't stomach having to share a nation with the likes of the DUP, NI Football fans, unpalatable Orange Marches in Dublin - all very understandble concerns.

There are some FG/FF's who fear a UI will mean a SF national majority/leadership.

There will be a subset who feel that the cost burden of NI will be too much for the ROI to bear as we go through the transition phase of getting NI up to an equal economic footing which might take up to ten years and negatively impact some ROI incomes in the meantime.

Any other reasons?
 

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