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NMunsterman

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They don’t seem to be putting much pressure on for a Border Poll .
Says the Oirish Republican who thinks the North is a part of Britain and calls Britain "The Mainland" - and who claims to be a quote
"James Connolly" man....:D
 

recedite

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2022 - a little over 3 years from now, is the tipping point.
That is a very precise prediction. But Lieutenant Commander Data said 2024, and he is never wrong.
But then maybe he is factoring in the 2 years from the triggering of Article 50...
 

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Opinion: A united Ireland is a realistic possibility now so we need to prepare for it
Opinion: A united Ireland is a realistic possibility now so we need to prepare for it

The part about British citizenship for all born in Ireland post UI is bollix but other than that some good points made.

We do need to prepare for it.

Let's start by persuading every household down here to pay an extra 6k in taxes to pay for the "subvention", which is now 25% of the gdp up there.

If the nordies can get by without the sub, then it might work.
 

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So there you have it....the Irish media will only be in favour of something, if it is supportive of the nEU empire.

And only when it is useful for the nEU empire.

Even The ISIS Times has thrown previous concerns about Ulster Unionists under the nEU empire bus.

This is all hilarious.

They want us to all be nEU serfs. Both sides of the border. And both sides of the Irish sea.
 

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The preference is to deal with Irish reunification only after th unionists are put in such a position that their voice counts for nothing and with the United Kingdom falling apart the English themselves might say enough is enough and just dump the place.
 

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So there you have it....the Irish media will only be in favour of something, if it is supportive of the nEU empire.

And only when it is useful for the nEU empire.

Even The ISIS Times has thrown previous concerns about Ulster Unionists under the nEU empire bus.

This is all hilarious.

They want us to all be nEU serfs. Both sides of the border. And both sides of the Irish sea.
They are on their knees to the Eu the same way they were on their Knees to the Catholic Church . What could possibly go wrong ?
 

Roll_On

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The preference is to deal with Irish reunification only after th unionists are put in such a position that their voice counts for nothing and with the United Kingdom falling apart the English themselves might say enough is enough and just dump the place.
England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.
 

Herr Rommel

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England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.
Unionists aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
 

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England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.
A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.

Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?
 

Herr Rommel

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A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.

Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?
We are going to be a mongrel country like England in 50 years and that is what they want.
 

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A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.
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Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?
50% +1 (and you know it)
and stop the racist shíte
 

mr_anderson

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50% +1 (and you know it)
and stop the racist shíte
You need to get sufficient numbers of Catholics to vote for a UI.
50%+1 nationalist population does not equal 50%+1 vote for a UI.

'racist' lol
 

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A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
It needs o be a significant majority.
Sorry that is not the criteria that has been agreed in the GFA. On that point what percentage do you think it should be?
 

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One Cabinet source told Politics Home: "The view was that a border poll in Northern Ireland was all-but inevitable if there is a no-deal Brexit because Sinn Fein would demand it straight away.
Well I don't know about "straight away".
A No Deal Brexit would usher in a golden age for the border smuggling racketeers.
They'll need a bit of time to take full advantage of the boom.
 
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