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University Qualification Required for TD's Assistant, Should it be a requirement for TD's also?


Pudna

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TD Colm Keaveney is recruiting, he needs a degree qualified Parliamentary Assistant. (per his website), quoted below.....

The position is full time and will be based in Tuam and Dublin as the need arises. The candidate must be available seven days a week as on-call work will be required. The succesful candidate must share the values and aims of the Labour Party and have a knowledge of Labour Party policies and procedures. A knowledge of national and local politics relevant to the position will also be essential.

The candidate must have a full, clean driving licence and a car as extensive travel throughout the constituency and to and from Dublin will be required as per contract.

The ideal candidate will have a relevant primary degree or postgraduate qualification and will have experience of working in a similar position in the past.


Should a university qualification be a requirement for TD's themselves?
 

commonman

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He forgot to say the the candidate most be a member of SIPTU.
 

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TD Colm Keaveney is recruiting, he needs a degree qualified Parliamentary Assistant. (per his website), quoted below.....

The position is full time and will be based in Tuam and Dublin as the need arises. The candidate must be available seven days a week as on-call work will be required. The succesful candidate must share the values and aims of the Labour Party and have a knowledge of Labour Party policies and procedures. A knowledge of national and local politics relevant to the position will also be essential.

The candidate must have a full, clean driving licence and a car as extensive travel throughout the constituency and to and from Dublin will be required as per contract.

The ideal candidate will have a relevant primary degree or postgraduate qualification and will have experience of working in a similar position in the past.


Should a university qualification be a requirement for TD's themselves?

Bill Gates doesn't have one - Mary Coughlan does. So, no.
 

statsman

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Perhaps you think the vote should also be limited to those with degrees, too?

Of all the daft ideas I've seen on here for electoral reform, this one takes the biscuit.
 

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Then you end up with even more teachers and lawyers. It should not be about educational qualifications but about the ability to do the actual job. Practically all of the current batch fail on those grounds. They get elected, move the deckchairs around, take the money and wait until the next election. They are not fit for purpose.
 

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No. This would send eijjets to university with the explicit purpose of getting a degree only so that they could be ready to inherit the family seat.
 

Pudna

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Bill Gates doesn't have one - Mary Coughlan does. So, no.
This information does not in itself prove or disprove anything, unless you are saying that Bill Gates capability level is typical of Irish people without degrees, and Mary Coughlan capabilities are typical of those with degrees in Ireland.
 

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'must be available seven days a week as on call work will be required...'

Great for one's family and private life?

'Based in Tuam and in Dublin as need arises...'

So the successful candidate needs to maintain a residence in both places? or will the candidate get €34,100 pa taxfree (band 7 allowance) for travel and accomodation as Colm Keaveney does?

Why does the person have to be in both places? Parliamentary assistants undertake research for the TD and assist with/write speeches etc. They are not secretaries.
 

Pudna

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'must be available seven days a week as on call work will be required...'

Great for one's family and private life?

'Based in Tuam and in Dublin as need arises...'

So the successful candidate needs to maintain a residence in both places? or will the candidate get €34,100 pa taxfree (band 7 allowance) for travel and accomodation as Colm Keaveney does?

Why does the person have to be in both places? Parliamentary assistants undertake research for the TD and assist with/write speeches etc. They are not secretaries.
Not for this thread though.
 

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I think it is rather elitist to require a university degree for a job as a TD's assistant.

Sean Lemass stated that a Dáil composed wholly of university graduates would be disaster, or words to that effect.

University degrees are more plentiful since his day, but I would still agree with him
 

floatingvoter2011

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That would be completely undemocratic.

But I would be in favour of minimum educational attainment restrictions for starting threads on politics.ie
 

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I think it is rather elitist to require a university degree for a job as a TD's assistant.

Sean Lemass stated that a Dáil composed wholly of university graduates would be disaster, or words to that effect.

University degrees are more plentiful since his day, but I would still agree with him
A Parliamentary Assistant's job is primarily concerned with research, writing speeches, development of policy as well as dealing with often complex local constituency work. In any other role with a similar description, a university degree would be essential.
 

Pudna

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That would be completely undemocratic.

But I would be in favour of minimum educational attainment restrictions for starting threads on politics.ie
So you are happy to have TD's and family members on packages with a total value of up to two million euro over the lifetime of a Dail (including pension, expenses and allowances), without any minimal educational requirements for the TD.
 

realistic1

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TD Colm Keaveney is recruiting, he needs a degree qualified Parliamentary Assistant. (per his website), quoted below.....

The position is full time and will be based in Tuam and Dublin as the need arises. The candidate must be available seven days a week as on-call work will be required. The succesful candidate must share the values and aims of the Labour Party and have a knowledge of Labour Party policies and procedures. A knowledge of national and local politics relevant to the position will also be essential.

The candidate must have a full, clean driving licence and a car as extensive travel throughout the constituency and to and from Dublin will be required as per contract.

The ideal candidate will have a relevant primary degree or postgraduate qualification and will have experience of working in a similar position in the past.


Should a university qualification be a requirement for TD's themselves?
No doubt the position will go to some other TDs relation. No evidence of this but I have been told that the Political classes have done an unofficial deal to employ each others family members. The Political class cannot be seen to be employing family directly anymore.
 

Pudna

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A Parliamentary Assistant's job is primarily concerned with research, writing speeches, development of policy as well as dealing with often complex local constituency work. In any other role with a similar description, a university degree would be essential.
And all of the above work mirrors the requirements of a TD...so why not a qualification requirement for the TD too.
 

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No. This would send eijjets to university with the explicit purpose of getting a degree only so that they could be ready to inherit the family seat.


Lots of eegits go to university as it is. I've worked with them (and they with me, of course ...). Just because you go to uni doesn't mean you're more intelligent/able/etc than those who don't. Practical experience often beats, hands down, a graduate.

In these days where computers and the web are commonplace, assuming a person has the cop-on and an open mind on the approach to take to do research, information is widely available. The accreditation is the problem.

What's a degree except proof of the ability to do research in a specific area.

Back to the eegits - they have to be led by the hand ....
 
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