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University rankings show that small countries' universities can rank among the best


patslatt

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Ireland's middling university ranking suggests more investment is needed to catch up with the best small country university systems in Scandinavia. That means higher fees,as in Canada and England.
 
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Define investment? Where are planning on getting the investment from?
 

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Define investment? Where are planning on getting the investment from?
University fees. A degree gives you a leg up. Time to pay for it.
 

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Ireland's middling university ranking suggests more investment is needed to catch up with the best small country university systems in Scandinavia.
We would rather elect politicians who sepnd the money on junkets to Rio. It is all a matter of priorities.

And we would rather students who blew a few million brain cells of F'arthur's Day.
 

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Maybe if we pay Ed Walsh another few grand, performance will improve.....
 

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Ireland's middling university ranking suggests more investment is needed to catch up with the best small country university systems in Scandinavia.
It is not just investment that is needed.

Priorities need to be adjusted away from finance and law, towards scientific and engineering disciplines. That shift is not going to happen in Ireland short of an invasion.
 

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It is not just investment that is needed.

Priorities need to be adjusted away from finance and law, towards scientific and engineering disciplines. That shift is not going to happen in Ireland short of an invasion.
...and let's face it...our finance graduates....a lot of them are not up to the job !!!
 

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Wrong. Fees would drive the lower classes out of the third level sector altogether.
Not if its paid back after graduation
 

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Not if its paid back after graduation
Slightly off-topic question, but here goes. Has a state-backed student loan system ever been discussed in Ireland? When I was in college in the UK I could borrow money at reasonable interest rates and I only had to pay it back once I earned above a certain threshold. I seem to remember that they have a similar system in other countries whereas here in Ireland the basic model is that parents pay up. I'd have thought that a student loan system might be a good way for the children of lower-income families to afford college.
 

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...and let's face it...our finance graduates....a lot of them are not up to the job !!!
I have only met one who was. She left Ireland and studied further in Germany and now works in a finance house that did not require a bail out and refused to even discuss taking part in such a scheme.

All the other finance graduates I have met, appear to be fu*ktarded.
 

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I have only met one who was. She left Ireland and studied further in Germany and now works in a finance house that did not require a bail out and refused to even discuss taking part in such a scheme.

All the other finance graduates I have met, appear to be fu*ktarded.
That's what happens when you study a discipline that defines its guiding principles solely on theoretical cogitation devoid of circumspection
 

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Slightly off-topic question, but here goes. Has a state-backed student loan system ever been discussed in Ireland? When I was in college in the UK I could borrow money at reasonable interest rates and I only had to pay it back once I earned above a certain threshold. I seem to remember that they have a similar system in other countries whereas here in Ireland the basic model is that parents pay up. I'd have thought that a student loan system might be a good way for the children of lower-income families to afford college.
FG proposed it before the last election and it was one of the things Labour latched onto during their "Every Little Hurts" campaign.
Labour got their way on it in the Programme for Government and their Minister for Education has been making savings elsewhere.

Edit: The FG proposal was actually a bit more complicated than a loan and involved paying it off through a higher PRSI rate.
 
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