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Dame_Enda

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Some Americans abusing the immigration laws to bring child brides to the US.

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Why do his supporters keep on swallowing all the lies that Trump tells?
They know he's telling lies; but they just don't care, because he is replicating their own sordid lack of values. Unfortunately while there are decent, honourable Americans there are also many Americans with Trump's biased attitudes.
 

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Some Americans abusing the immigration laws to bring child brides to the US.

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Some Republicans have better ideas....

Trump Official Once Complained That Using Condoms “Robs” Women of the “Remarkable Chemicals” in Semen - Slate

You should be aware in your immigrant-trolling exercise that US immigration law on child brides is intentional, and that's because so-called conservative and/or Religious Right Republicans are constantly engaging in and defending child bride marriages--so long as they're straight, that is--whilst the libs/Dems have been trying to restrict marriages to consenting adults, e.g.,

House Republicans effectively killed a bill Wednesday that would prohibit child marriages in Tennessee,
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The national nonprofit Unchained at Last has cited marriages in the state involving minors as young as 10 years old,
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Fowler argued that passing Jernigan's bill could interfere with a lawsuit he is mounting to counter the U.S. Supreme Court's 2015 decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, legalizing gay marriage.
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Jernigan questioned Fowler as to why this should affect his legislation, and Fowler responded, "Some people think the state should regulate marriage, and I do not."
House Republicans effectively kill anti-child marriage bill, cite possible case against gay marriage - Tennessean
Republicans In Tennessee And Kentucky Block Bills That Would Bar Child Marriage - Outside the Beltway
Republican refuses to repeal child marriage law allowing girls aged 13 to wed - Independent
Child Marriage Is A-OK, Say 50 Missouri Lawmakers - River Front Times
Even so-called RINO Chris Christie vetoed a child bride ban attempt, claiming it does not "does not comport with the sensibilities and, in some cases, the religious customs" of what was clearly his GOP base voters in the state.
Guatemala bans child marriage. But these N.J. Republicans, pro-lifers defend it - NJ.com

In a survey of marriage licenses compiled by Unchained At Last, at least 167,000 children under 18 were married in the U.S. between 2000 and 2010. (That number is likely on the conservative side, as Unchained At Last could obtain age data from only 38 U.S. states.)

The vast majority of those children were girls married off to adult men, Reiss said.

Child marriage is most common in the southern United States, according to the Pew Research Center. It's most common in West Virginia and Texas, followed by states like Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Nevada and California.

When it comes to child marriage laws, the U.S. in comparable to countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, . . .
The "ugly" reality of child marriage in the U.S. - CBS News
 

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Turned out its actually 60-80% of trafficked women being raped en route to crossing the southern border. CNN have largely ignored that element of it. They had someone from the Toronto Star on after the statement and he said he didnt know the truth about Trumps claim it was one third of women. But the deleted CBS News fact check says its even worse - 60-80%.
 

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Fact Check: Yes, Democrats Once Supported Walls on the Border... :wink:
They have supported--and still do--the use of strategic fencing in places and manners where it makes sense to do so, not a demagogic and race dog whistling Trumpian 'Wall of China' along the entire border that he claimed Mexico would pay for. They supported the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and the Senate comprehensive immigration reform bill passed with bipartisan approval during the Obama Admin that the GOP-led House under Boehner refused to bring to a vote. Thanks to their support of the Secure Fence Act of 2006, there's already substantial strategic fencing along the US-Mexico border.
 

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Some Americans abusing the immigration laws to bring child brides to the US.

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Do you think Trump's wall/fence/barrier/beaded curtain will stop this activity?
 

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Do you think Trump's wall/fence/barrier/beaded curtain will stop this activity?
I think it could stop some men who plan to bring them to the US getting in through the southern border. One of the problems is that some Latin American countries have very low ages of consent.
 

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More bad news for Trump.

A federal judge in New York has ruled against the Trump administration's decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.

U.S. District Judge Jesse Furman ordered the administration to stop its plans to include the controversial question on forms for the upcoming national head count "without curing the legal defects" the judge identified in his opinion released on Tuesday.

This decision will be appealed to the 2nd Circuit and from there to the Supreme Court
 

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I think it could stop some men who plan to bring them to the US getting in through the southern border. One of the problems is that some Latin American countries have very low ages of consent.
Think about what you just wrote. Do you really think that instead of flying them in and marrying them, that they'd walk them in through the desert and then marry them?

Do you stop to think for a second?
 

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More bad news for Trump.

A federal judge in New York has ruled against the Trump administration's decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.

U.S. District Judge Jesse Furman ordered the administration to stop its plans to include the controversial question on forms for the upcoming national head count "without curing the legal defects" the judge identified in his opinion released on Tuesday.

This decision will be appealed to the 2nd Circuit and from there to the Supreme Court
All the more reason to get more conservatives appointed to the vacancies on the 2nd Circuit.
 

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All the more reason to get more conservatives appointed to the vacancies on the 2nd Circuit.
Sounds like you'd simply prefer a Trump Admin rubber stamp kangaroo court than a 'conservative' one, which are materially distinguishable things.

The court struck it because its inclusion failed to satisfy statutory APA requirements, the very kind of grounds today's fake conservatives in the Trump Party claim to be all about, e.g., "must interpret the law, not make the law” per Justice Kavanaugh.

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Ross violated a statute that requires him to collect data through the acquisition and use of “administrative records” instead of through “direct inquiries” on a survey such as the census.

Ross announced in March that he was granting a request from the Justice Department to reinstate the citizenship question on the decennial population count to help the agency better enforce the Voting Rights Act.

The decision led to a flurry of lawsuits across the country.

In his 277-page ruling, Furman called Ross’s violations of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) “egregious.”

“He failed to consider several important aspects of the problem; alternately ignored, cherry-picked, or badly misconstrued the evidence in the record before him; acted irrationally both in light of that evidence and his own stated decisional criteria; and failed to justify significant departures from past policies and practices — a veritable smorgasbord of classic, clear-cut APA violations,” he wrote.
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Federal judge rules against Trump administration's plan to add 2020 census citizenship question - The Hill

The court's decision regarding Wilbur Ross's lack of candour and bad faith regarding the law's requirements shouldn't be surprising but expected. Next to Scott Pruitt, Wilbur Ross is corrupt as F and not a well meaning and credible person and is also tied up in the Mueller investigation.

. . . while in office, Ross had kept financial stakes in companies “co-owned by the Chinese government, a shipping firm tied to Vladimir Putin’s inner circle (and) a Cypriot bank reportedly caught up in the Robert Mueller investigation.”

Forbes also found that Ross lied when he submitted a sworn statement to federal officials promising to divest himself of these key financial holdings.

Most amazing of all, Forbes discovered that when news stories first emerged last fall showing Ross’s connection to the Putin-connected shipping firm, he shorted the company’s stock, on the assumption that its price would drop (which it modestly did, earning him a small profit).

In July, Alexander reported that during Ross’s first few months in office, the secretary repeatedly held meetings with companies that had direct connections to his personal financial holdings.

He met with officials in Greece, “while holding an interest in a major Greek bank.” He sat down with Brazilian officials while maintaining “investments in a Brazilian auto parts company.” He broke bread with the heads of “state-controlled funds from Qatar, Japan and Singapore, all of whom had invested money in his private equity firm.”

Then earlier this week, Forbes revealed that Ross is not just a greedy, ethically corrupt liar . . . he’s also a world-class grifter.

According to Forbes, Ross is alleged to have siphoned or stolen more than $120 million from business partners and customers. Forbes recounted accusations against Ross that included “taking handfuls of Sweet ’N Low packets from a nearby restaurant, so he didn’t have to go out and buy some for himself,” and not paying workers who had done work at his house in the Hamptons.
The biggest creature in the swamp? Wilbur Ross - Boston Globe
 

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Sounds like you'd simply prefer a Trump Admin rubber stamp kangaroo court than a 'conservative' one, which are materially distinguishable things.

The court struck it because its inclusion failed to satisfy statutory APA requirements, the very kind of grounds today's fake conservatives in the Trump Party claim to be all about, e.g., "must interpret the law, not make the law” per Justice Kavanaugh.


Federal judge rules against Trump administration's plan to add 2020 census citizenship question - The Hill

The court's decision regarding Wilbur Ross's lack of candour and bad faith regarding the law's requirements shouldn't be surprising but expected. Next to Scott Pruitt, Wilbur Ross is corrupt as F and not a well meaning and credible person and is also tied up in the Mueller investigation.

The biggest creature in the swamp? Wilbur Ross - Boston Globe

Delightful to see this ball of filth torn asunder in court today.
I suspect Trump will fire him now (unless Trump owes him dosh, which I have long suspected might be teh reason he gave him the gig)

This of course has nothing to do with the census but everything to do with voter suppression and intimidation and most of all trying to illegally prevent further House gains for Democrats and possible Electoral College gains as well.

A great victory for democracy and surprised it hasn't been headline news today
 

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Delightful to see this ball of filth torn asunder in court today.
I suspect Trump will fire him now (unless Trump owes him dosh, which I have long suspected might be teh reason he gave him the gig)

This of course has nothing to do with the census but everything to do with voter suppression and intimidation and most of all trying to illegally prevent further House gains for Democrats and possible Electoral College gains as well.

A great victory for democracy and surprised it hasn't been headline news today
The Trump Admin is such a cesspool that stories like this get the back burner every day because even worse things are afoot. Even the NASA mission to Mars six weeks ago got completely overshadowed by the overflowing public toilets of the Trump Admin.
 
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