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US Nuclear guidance system runs on 8-inch floppy disks c.1970

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US nukes controlled by 1970s IBM 'puter using 8-inch floppies

The US has an amazing amount of legacy tech hanging around running critical systems. For example, their nuclear guidance system runs on an IBM Series/1 Mainframe with the code stored on 1970s era 8 inch floppies, with 80kb a piece.

The US tax system runs on a compute built in 1960.

They spend a fortune to keep it running.

In fact, 75% of the US government's IT budget ($80 billion) goes on keeping old systems ticking over. They also have in issue that money can't solve - the number IT guys who know how these things work and how to fix them decrease by the year due because they are literally dying out.
 


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I heard this being discussed this morning on the radio. One of the commentators indicated that the systems in use belong in a museum.

Really needs a major investment and spending 3/4 of the budget on maintenance is simply not sustainable.
 

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I heard this being discussed this morning on the radio. One of the commentators indicated that the systems in use belong in a museum.

Really needs a major investment and spending 3/4 of the budget on maintenance is simply not sustainable.
oh crap, no tax cut this year then.....
 

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US nukes controlled by 1970s IBM 'puter using 8-inch floppies

The US has an amazing amount of legacy tech hanging around running critical systems. For example, their nuclear guidance system runs on an IBM Series/1 Mainframe with the code stored on 1970s era 8 inch floppies, with 80kb a piece.

The US tax system runs on a compute built in 1960.

They spend a fortune to keep it running.

In fact, 75% of the US government's IT budget ($80 billion) goes on keeping old systems ticking over. They also have in issue that money can't solve - the number IT guys who know how these things work and how to fix them decrease by the year due because they are literally dying out.
I thought it was published before. Or maybe it was in the book on nukes Gods of metal.
 

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A lot of the old gear and software is incredibly reliable compared to some of the shíte that is manufactured today. (If you want your computer hardware to last for years, don't turn it off.)
 

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Not only that the nuclear warheads are antiquated too. I remember doing a bit of reading on this when a Pie thread about nukes was taken over by the ra-ra State Dept shrills all saying they were perfectly safe, up the minute and guarded by Brad Pitt looking oh so buff. Its bullsh*t.

US nuclear bases reveal ageing weapons and low morale of missileers | Daily Mail Online

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/opinion/america-musnt-neglect-its-nukes.html?_r=0

Of course the Pentagon report which released all these scary details into the publuc domain was aimed at cadging one-two billion dollars for upgrading and renewal, so that must be borne in mind when skimming these links. Which you wont, anyway.

All the same, very casual about the whole thing arent we? Nukes-shmukes - how 80s, dahling ...
 

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A lot of the old gear and software is incredibly reliable compared to some of the shíte that is manufactured today. (If you want your computer hardware to last for years, don't turn it off.)
The U.S. Air force had a team that crisscrossed America attending shows and boot sales for parts for the space shuttles. Also, the "Ask not what your Country' speech at Kennedy's inauguration, was recorded on a "string" recorder not tape.
 

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I smell another few Trillion spend on the Military Industrial Complex coming.

"YOUR NUCLEAR MISSILES WILL NO LONGER RECEIVE UPDATES FROM GOOGLE CHROME AS FLOPPY DISCS ARE NO LONGER SUPPORTED"

Big Smiley.
 

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8 inch floppies sounds like the end of a stag party.
 

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Have they tried turning the Pentagon off and back on again?
 

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hmmm these ancient systems are probably incompatible with modern modem/networking technology, so perhaps they're immune to being hacked into?
This is how the battlestar Galactica avoiding being infected by the Cylon virus. It was too old to be connected to the colonial mainframe and thus was able to escape the invasion. All this has happened before.
 
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Hacking an antiquated system is difficult hence why good idea to have it.

What damage would a single computer virus do to Ireland's Water, Gas and Electricity networks....

New is not necessarily BETTER.
 

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This is how the battlestar Galactica avoiding being infected by the Cylon virus. It was too old to be connected to the colonial mainframe and thus was able to escape the invasion. All this has happened before.
Frack!
 

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