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US to increase aid for Islamists rebels in Syria, when will they ever learn?


Honecker

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John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars. This is on top of all the "aid" the islamists are receiving from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US are determined to destroy the Syrian state, an ally of Iran and long term opponent of US policy in the Middle East (The Bush adminisatration called Syria part of the axis of evil). However just like in Afghanistan in the 80s they are arming extremist group who will be tomorrow's terrorists. More and more evidence is coming out of Syria that the rebels are increasingly made up of foreign jihadists and many are loyal to Al Queada.

BBC News - Syria crisis: Al-Nusra pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda

The Sunnis are represented by local fighters, international jihadists, and regional Sunni states, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

The Alawis control the army and have grassroots support from secularists, heterodox Muslim sects, Christians, leftists, nationalists, and feminists.



Syrian Conflict Not a Battle for Democracy | Harvard Extension Blog

If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
 


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John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars.
What could go wrong?
 

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If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
The reason the US elites get away with this is because of the ignorance of ordinary US people about US foreign policy.

The Americans have been using these savage jihadists for decades now and eventually the jihadists bite the hand that feeds them
 

ManOfReason

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There seems to be an assumption in this thread that all the rebels in Syria are Islamist terrorists, this is clearly not the case. But go ahead and have a rant if you want. Maybe quote a few articles from Russia Today pretending that Assad is doing the world a favor by defending us all from some mad Islamist army sweeping across the area. The best incubators for Islamist terror organisations are totalitarian regimes. The USA made a mistake by staying out of this fight for too long and now the Islamists are on the rise amongst the rebel groups. Kerry's actions may be too little too late.
 

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There seems to be an assumption in this thread that all the rebels in Syria are Islamist terrorists, this is clearly not the case. But go ahead and have a rant if you want. Maybe quote a few articles from Russia Today pretending that Assad is doing the world a favor by defending us all from some mad Islamist army sweeping across the area. The best incubators for Islamist terror organisations are totalitarian regimes. The USA made a mistake by staying out of this fight for too long and now the Islamists are on the rise amongst the rebel groups. Kerry's actions may be too little too late.
Like Saudi Arabia?
 

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John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars. This is on top of all the "aid" the islamists are receiving from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US are determined to destroy the Syrian state, an ally of Iran and long term opponent of US policy in the Middle East (The Bush adminisatration called Syria part of the axis of evil). However just like in Afghanistan in the 80s they are arming extremist group who will be tomorrow's terrorists. More and more evidence is coming out of Syria that the rebels are increasingly made up of foreign jihadists and many are loyal to Al Queada.

BBC News - Syria crisis: Al-Nusra pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda

The Sunnis are represented by local fighters, international jihadists, and regional Sunni states, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

The Alawis control the army and have grassroots support from secularists, heterodox Muslim sects, Christians, leftists, nationalists, and feminists.



Syrian Conflict Not a Battle for Democracy | Harvard Extension Blog

If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
The Syrian rebels do not look like terrorists to me ... more like guerrilla fighters who are growing into a regular army, able to take and hold large areas in spite of having no aircraft or artillery.

If these were just "terrorists" (a few scattered cells) Bashir Asssad would have smashed them like his father did.

Like all rebel armies the Syrian rebels are a coalition of the less and more extreme, or the less and more Islamic. At the moment matters seem to be finely balanced, with no side having a distinct advantage.
 

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ManOfReason

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Yes Saudi Arabia, the biggest back of the islamist rebellion in Syria
It is not an Islamist rebellion, but a rebellion which includes Islamists. Why your need to defend the bloodthirsty tyrant Assad?
 

Honecker

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It is not an Islamist rebellion, but a rebellion which includes Islamists. Why your need to defend the bloodthirsty tyrant Assad?
He's far less bloodthirtsy than the Amnericans, the Saudis or the islamists. Assad represents the lesser of two eveils in this conflict.
 

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He's far less bloodthirtsy than the Amnericans, the Saudis or the islamists. Assad represents the lesser of two eveils in this conflict.
How many people has Saudi regime murdered?
 

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How many people has Saudi regime murdered?
But they have the nicest quality oil, you have to be reasonable.

Nobody cares about human rights in the Middle East, they care about power and oil. The Saudis have both and share it with us, therefore they are the good guys. Iran does not share it therefore it is bad. Syria has neither so nobody really cares what they do so long as it does not affect anyone that does count.

Cynical?

Maybe, but that is the truth. If there were a significant oil supply at stake for the USA in Syria they would be in like a shot to "free" them.

So long as oil tankers keep sailing over to us they can pretty much do as they like to each other.
 

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John Kerry has announced the US will double their aid to the "rebels" in Syria and therefore give them another $123 million dollars. This is on top of all the "aid" the islamists are receiving from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The US are determined to destroy the Syrian state, an ally of Iran and long term opponent of US policy in the Middle East (The Bush adminisatration called Syria part of the axis of evil). However just like in Afghanistan in the 80s they are arming extremist group who will be tomorrow's terrorists. More and more evidence is coming out of Syria that the rebels are increasingly made up of foreign jihadists and many are loyal to Al Queada.

BBC News - Syria crisis: Al-Nusra pledges allegiance to al-Qaeda

The Sunnis are represented by local fighters, international jihadists, and regional Sunni states, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

The Alawis control the army and have grassroots support from secularists, heterodox Muslim sects, Christians, leftists, nationalists, and feminists.



Syrian Conflict Not a Battle for Democracy | Harvard Extension Blog

If countries like the US and Saudi Arabia would stop supplying the terrorists with weapons then this dreadful civil war could end and the killing would stop. The US is playing a cynical geopolitical game to bleed Syria dry and weaken Iran and they don't care who they arm or who gets killed in the process.
The US has no interest in preventing civilian deaths or ongoing warfare, especially when it is foreign brown people involved?

Did you think that Mr. Obama was going to be any different than Bush, Clinton or Bush Snr?
 

ManOfReason

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He's far less bloodthirtsy than the Amnericans, the Saudis or the islamists. Assad represents the lesser of two eveils in this conflict.
That is simply not true, Assad is a butcher and is a dead man walking. We can only hope then when Assad is gone that the Syrian people finally get a chance to vote for a government of their choosing. That is what is at stake here, not Assad's future.
 

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Rumours doing the rounds that a certain independent TD accepted a request from the "Irish Syria Solidarity Campaign" to allow them give a cross-party presentation in the Oireachtas last week.

The individual who spoke, a representative of the Syrian National Coalition (Political wing of the FSA) used the occassion to call on TDs to work towards lifting the arms embargo and called for TDs to put pressureon for a "no fly zone" over Syria.

Apparently only one TD (of the handful who were in attendence) had the guts to stand up and point out that the FSA itself has been accused of war crimes, is working hand-in-hand with Al Qaeda and pointed out some of the untrue claims the individual made about charities working in the country. And instead countries like Ireland should be working towards facilitating a peace process.
 

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