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Useless money grabbing GP's.


Twin Towers

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Our 4 year old who suffers with tonsilitis was taken to the GP, anti biotic was prescribed no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At the end of the course, symptoms reappear, sore throat, fever, pain in parts of the body, difficulty in swallowing. Back to the doctor, more anti biotic, no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At no time was avoiding irritants like condiments or spicy foods suggested. Nothing obvious like sipping honey and lime was suggested or any of the treatments found here which are now greatly relieving the childs discomfort.

Home remedies for tonsillitis-Tonsillitis treatment and symptoms information

The mothers impression was the GP's primary interest was in the next 50 quid coming in the door such little interest or empathy being displayed by doctor to a young patient.


Are GP's given spot checks on the quality of service they provide? and if not why not?

Why can't we have a rate-my-doctor.ie and have it provided by the Dept of Health.
 

eirigi87

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Our 4 year old who suffers with tonsilitis was taken to the GP, anti biotic was prescribed no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At the end of the course, symptoms reappear, sore throat, fever, pain in parts of the body, difficulty in swallowing. Back to the doctor, more anti biotic, no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At no time was avoiding irritants like condiments or spicy foods suggested. Nothing obvious like sipping honey and lime was suggested or any of the treatments found here which are now greatly relieving the childs discomfort.

Home remedies for tonsillitis-Tonsillitis treatment and symptoms information

The mothers impression was the GP's primary interest was in the next 50 quid coming in the door such little interest or empathy being displayed by doctor to a young patient.


Are GP's given spot checks on the quality of service they provide? and if not why not?

Why can't we have a rate-my-doctor.ie and have it provided by the Dept of Health.
Ye they're pretty much a joke. Recurrent problems especially in a 4 year old should probably be referred to a specialist but not until your GPs been given a few 50e first.
 

Ecoguy

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Yep - "GP's are pretty useless and extremly greedy" - Not my words but the words of my wife's boss who works in the medical publishing trade.
 

orbit

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Why is there no regulation of the GP prices?

Is it true that they are prevented from advertising their prices?
Didn't Harney try to bring something in where they had to display their prices? but the GPs fobbed her off on that successfully.

When my kids were young I found another GP by accident who charged significantly less than our regular GP, particulary in situations where 2 or 3 of us needed to be seen at the same time. So, I went to him all the time, after that, until the bugger went and retired.

I think a price comparison web site would be useful. But, a "rate my gp" site would be trickier.
 
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What we need is a proper funded health service such as the UK's NHS funded by national insurance contributions and free at the point of delivery.
The system here is a joke.
 

johnfás

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If you aren't happy with your family doctor go to another one - nobody is forcing you to stay in that practice.
 

seabhcan

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What we need is a proper funded health service such as the UK's NHS funded by national insurance contributions and free at the point of delivery.
The system here is a joke.
That would be nice, but more achievable would be price regulation of GPs like they have in France. There the government sets the maximum charge of GPs, just as they do for taxi drivers here. I believe the maximum GP charge in france is in the region of 19 euro.
 

spidermom

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Our 4 year old who suffers with tonsilitis was taken to the GP, anti biotic was prescribed no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At the end of the course, symptoms reappear, sore throat, fever, pain in parts of the body, difficulty in swallowing. Back to the doctor, more anti biotic, no other advice proffered. 5 minute service. 50 quid.

At no time was avoiding irritants like condiments or spicy foods suggested. Nothing obvious like sipping honey and lime was suggested or any of the treatments found here which are now greatly relieving the childs discomfort.

Home remedies for tonsillitis-Tonsillitis treatment and symptoms information

The mothers impression was the GP's primary interest was in the next 50 quid coming in the door such little interest or empathy being displayed by doctor to a young patient.


Are GP's given spot checks on the quality of service they provide? and if not why not?

Why can't we have a rate-my-doctor.ie and have it provided by the Dept of Health.
If your little one is in a playgroup or owt...ask the other parents re their GP...our Gp is great....he wouldn't dream of charging me twice for the same illness in the kids....mind you with 4 kids and us two crocked parents....he gets loads of business!!

Ask around re GPs if I were you.....and then change!
 

Stroke

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Call this doctor's bluff. Tell them you're only going to pay them on a sliding scale basis of extended recurring ineffective treatments. That's what our GP does, and it's very fair.....
 

uriah

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You have my sympathy. Choosing the right GP for you and your family is very important and if one is a new to an area it is difficult to do the necessary research.


However, not all GPs are interested only in money,
We are in the very lucky position of having a very good GP who has little interest in money (average charge €30), will not charge/charge a small amount for subsequent visit with the same complaint and when a couple of children were seen at the same time charged the usual fee as if only one patient attended.
 

markeys

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GP's have been overcharging for years. There's not enough competition due to a very restrictive points system in place from the leaving cert that takes no account of fitness to practice.

GP's should be forced to publish their prices on the door, or a central database so that people could compare prices quickly. 50 quid for 5 minutes is all to common practice.
 

gatsbygirl20

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You have my sympathy. Choosing the right GP for you and your family is very important and if one is a new to an area it is difficult to do the necessary research.


However, not all GPs are interested only in money,
We are in the very lucky position of having a very good GP who has little interest in money (average charge €30), will not charge/charge a small amount for subsequent visit with the same complaint and when a couple of children were seen at the same time charged the usual fee as if only one patient attended.
I would never say my GP "was only interested in money". He works hard.
But while I have taken a series of paycuts because "we all have to share the pain" and "everyone in the private sector is suffering too" my GP has put up his prices this year to 55 Euro. The other local GPs charge 60 Euro. Most GPs in the same area tend to charge about the same, I notice.

Shopping round is not always an option---distance, scarcity of GPs in small towns and villages, the fact that your family has built up a relationship with a GP, the fact that your kids like him and are not afraid of going, the fact that he knows you and knows your medical form....all these matter too

He is a good doctor and I like and trust him. So I just pay up. Oh, and I have to take time off work to see him, or to bring my child. His last surgery is at 4.15. Strange how nobody expects him to open his surgery at night.
 

lucan

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Hi. My GP doctor is useless 100%. I have problems with my nose with sinuses. My doctor thinks my its an allergy. I have third visit today at the doctor as the last two visits i was prescribed to use two courses of antibiotics. After he saw me today he was i can say scared used medicine he has prescribed didn't work. By the way 2 weeks ago he gave me a letter to make an x-ray in Tallaght hospital. I went to the hospital they took the letter and said appointment will be posted by post, so I'm still waiting for my appointment as i didn't get it. Today my doctor prescribed me just neoclaritin and nose drops to fight with my sinuses infection or allergy as he say. I ask him might be i have to go to the hospital to the real nose doctor who knows his job. He told me not to go to the hospital but to go to yoga to learn breathing exercises. That was the last tier of my patience. My problem got worse and he is doing nothing to help me.
As it gets worse with every day i don't know what do where to go for help??????
Irish heath system seems to be worst in all EU countries. Myself not Irish so i,m confused
what to do next???? How to help myself if doctor can't, if to get an appointment to the hospital to do x-ray takes ages. Sinuses is not a joke it could become of meningitis.

Any advise???????
 

james5001

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Hi. My GP doctor is useless 100%. I have problems with my nose with sinuses. My doctor thinks my its an allergy. I have third visit today at the doctor as the last two visits i was prescribed to use two courses of antibiotics. After he saw me today he was i can say scared used medicine he has prescribed didn't work. By the way 2 weeks ago he gave me a letter to make an x-ray in Tallaght hospital. I went to the hospital they took the letter and said appointment will be posted by post, so I'm still waiting for my appointment as i didn't get it. Today my doctor prescribed me just neoclaritin and nose drops to fight with my sinuses infection or allergy as he say. I ask him might be i have to go to the hospital to the real nose doctor who knows his job. He told me not to go to the hospital but to go to yoga to learn breathing exercises. That was the last tier of my patience. My problem got worse and he is doing nothing to help me.
As it gets worse with every day i don't know what do where to go for help??????
Irish heath system seems to be worst in all EU countries. Myself not Irish so i,m confused
what to do next???? How to help myself if doctor can't, if to get an appointment to the hospital to do x-ray takes ages. Sinuses is not a joke it could become of meningitis.

Any advise???????
Go to another GP if you think the present GP is not doing a good job.
 

GDPR

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It is my experience that most are next to useless. My current GP is very much the exception, charges 40 bills which reduces to 20 for subsequent visits re same illness. Additionally he explains everything in detail and is a big fan of not prescribing antibiotics for the kids, them being the main reason we visit. Very happy with him.
 

lucan

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It is my experience that most are next to useless. My current GP is very much the exception, charges 40 bills which reduces to 20 for subsequent visits re same illness. Additionally he explains everything in detail and is a big fan of not prescribing antibiotics for the kids, them being the main reason we visit. Very happy with him.
Ted you must be lucky to have a nice doctor who is doing his job great. For other doctors today The Hippocratic oath is just empty words. Most GP's today know 10 types of antibiotics and that makes them doctors. Even veterinary doctor does his job much better the my dog get ill :)
 

GDPR

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Hi. My GP doctor is useless 100%. I have problems with my nose with sinuses. My doctor thinks my its an allergy. I have third visit today at the doctor as the last two visits i was prescribed to use two courses of antibiotics. After he saw me today he was i can say scared used medicine he has prescribed didn't work. By the way 2 weeks ago he gave me a letter to make an x-ray in Tallaght hospital. I went to the hospital they took the letter and said appointment will be posted by post, so I'm still waiting for my appointment as i didn't get it. Today my doctor prescribed me just neoclaritin and nose drops to fight with my sinuses infection or allergy as he say. I ask him might be i have to go to the hospital to the real nose doctor who knows his job. He told me not to go to the hospital but to go to yoga to learn breathing exercises. That was the last tier of my patience. My problem got worse and he is doing nothing to help me.
As it gets worse with every day i don't know what do where to go for help??????
Irish heath system seems to be worst in all EU countries. Myself not Irish so i,m confused
what to do next???? How to help myself if doctor can't, if to get an appointment to the hospital to do x-ray takes ages. Sinuses is not a joke it could become of meningitis.

Any advise???????

Get on a train to Belfast.

Present yourself at the Royal Victoria Hospital as a visitor from the Republic. It's a ten minute walk from Great Victoria St Railway Station (remember not to get off at Belfast Central).

They probably won't even ask if you have an EU 101 form, but if you want to be on the safe side, you can bring one with you. It entitles you to reciprocal health care if you are an EU citizen. You will get a diagnosis and emergency treatment, including X-ray. Any medication you are prescribed for temporary relief of symptoms will undoubtedly be less expensive too. Go back to your doctor and tell him/her what they said.

Hope this helps. :)
 

CookieMonster

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Hi. My GP doctor is useless 100%. I have problems with my nose with sinuses. My doctor thinks my its an allergy. I have third visit today at the doctor as the last two visits i was prescribed to use two courses of antibiotics. After he saw me today he was i can say scared used medicine he has prescribed didn't work. By the way 2 weeks ago he gave me a letter to make an x-ray in Tallaght hospital. I went to the hospital they took the letter and said appointment will be posted by post, so I'm still waiting for my appointment as i didn't get it. Today my doctor prescribed me just neoclaritin and nose drops to fight with my sinuses infection or allergy as he say. I ask him might be i have to go to the hospital to the real nose doctor who knows his job. He told me not to go to the hospital but to go to yoga to learn breathing exercises. That was the last tier of my patience. My problem got worse and he is doing nothing to help me.
As it gets worse with every day i don't know what do where to go for help??????
Irish heath system seems to be worst in all EU countries. Myself not Irish so i,m confused
what to do next???? How to help myself if doctor can't, if to get an appointment to the hospital to do x-ray takes ages. Sinuses is not a joke it could become of meningitis.

Any advise???????
Go to another GP.

Ask then to prescribe you something for your excessive use of question marks while you are there.

Or, ask him to refer you to a private consultant which will result in you not having to wait for a x-ray and treatment in the public system.

You can phone the Hermitage Clinic, which is in Lucan, ask for the Radiology dept and ask them the charges for the type of x-ray first so you have an idea of cost.

While I am not a doctor the symptoms you describe don't, to my knowledge, compare to the symptoms of meningitis (either bacterial or viral) and it's unlikely to be or become meningitis. But if you are worried that it is you could have discussed this with your GP who could test for it quite easily.
 
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