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UVF flags erected in east Belfast, Alliance wants them down.


theloner

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Men in east Belfast have erected UVF flags along key arterial routes. It's presumably to 'celebrate' the UVF's centenary however an Alliance MLA Chris Lyttle has said: 'residents who object to this behaviour were not consulted, the organisations concerned are regarded as paramilitary'. He is right, the last major attack it carried out was the 1994 Loughinisland massacre, in which its members shot dead six catholic civilians in a pub. It carried out hundreds of other murders. The same men presumably were involved in the painting of the below UVF mural in east Belfast last year, it doesn't take Sherlock to work out this isn't the 'good old UVF' of old.
LATEST: Alliance concern at UVF flag display - Headlines - Belfast Newsletter



Although it apparently officially ended its armed campaign in May 2007, it has been involved in feuds, drug-dealing and punishment shootings. Bizarrely in its recent history during The Troubles, it killed twice as many loyalists than it did republicans, indeed it murdered over 400 civilians, the overwhelming majority of them were killed because of their religion. It did however manage to murder 21 republican activists.

Accused won't be bailed until loyalist feud ends - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The main issue here is representation and voice. Who are these people and who do they represent? The closest political party to the UVF is the PUP. Currently the PUP has a massive 2 members involved in local government out of a possible 582 seats. It has no MPs, no MLAs but its comrades can proverbially 'piss up a lamppost' and erect, not national flags, but flags of a sectarian murder machine that most right minded people in NI find abhorrent. The PUP should use whatever influence they have to take these flags down and talk some sense into the knuckledraggers who put them up. Here is an article to their latest infamy in the news:



BBC News - Mark Haddock UVF supergrass trial cost taxpayers £11.5m

Flags in NI are a pathetic subject in my opinion, the last few months has been truly embarrassing. Regardless of the street and road, area or city, the erection of national flags on lampposts should be banned. It's disrespectful to a national flag and is akin to a dog pissing up the side of public property, not to mention the intimidation factors involved.
 

Ren84

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"UVF erected in east Belfast"!!

Oh matron. :shock2:
 

theloner

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"UVF erected in east Belfast"!!

Oh matron. :shock2:
Was hoping the mods would change it before anyone noticed!
 

former wesleyan

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I opened the thread because I thought that the typo was ' ELECTED '!!

Thing is ...... if SF toss the flags grenade into the Council chamber in Belfast, then this stunt will follow on shure as shootin' .
 

Ren84

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I opened the thread because I thought that the typo was ' ELECTED '!!

Thing is ...... if SF toss the flags grenade into the Council chamber in Belfast, then this stunt will follow on shure as shootin' .
Was wondering when some eejit would fly in with the 'SF are to blame' routine.
 

InsideImDancing

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Flags on lamp posts should be banned, simple as, it makes a skangerville out of so many areas, not sure how doable it is though.
 

former wesleyan

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Was wondering when some eejit would fly in with the 'SF are to blame' routine.
Well they started it. Loyalists may seem dumb, but even they're going to get the message after a while.
 
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SeamusNapoleon

I will have to see what way the flags are pointing before I condemn this.
 
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The flags say "Formation of UVF 1913" and include a picture of Carson and possibly Craig. Union Flags are interspersed with them and they are on every lamp post in the Holywood Road, Circular Road, Sydenham Ave, Belmont Road and Upper Newtownards Road. That's some amount of flags in areas where there's usually no flags ever. They are clearly nothing to do with the UVF of the 70s but the masked men who'd organised a cherry picker to put them up suggests a rather more sinister connection than some historical society.
 

Northtipp

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Not a good idea.
I agree. Marking of boundaries in the 6 is as old as the conflict. Yo can have a ludicrous scenario such as Finaghy where literally 10 metres apart will fly the tricolour and union jack and below people go about their business. Mad stuff.
 

Portadown madman

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Will the Alliance ever learn their lesson, FFS.

We've still protest going on about the removal of the Union flag, now they want to create another.

They need to climb off that high horse.
 

vaudeville

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I agree. Marking of boundaries in the 6 is as old as the conflict. Yo can have a ludicrous scenario such as Finaghy where literally 10 metres apart will fly the tricolour and union jack and below people go about their business. Mad stuff.
That's the change, about time too.
 

Portadown madman

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So what your saying is that even if they are correct they should say nothing because people will riot. That mad PM.
Tipp, is it really worth all the hassle? it will just have the snowball effect. riots in Belfast, Coleraine etc, etc.

Sure you'd think they would have learnt their lesson by now. nothing is simple up here.
 

Northtipp

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Tipp, is it really worth all the hassle? it will just have the snowball effect. riots in Belfast, Coleraine etc, etc.

Sure you'd think they would have learnt their lesson by now. nothing is simple up here.
As they see it they are doing right. I'd suggest they will ask PM why right should back down to wrong. Btw, I understand what your saying about the hassle etc,
 

Septic Frank

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Loyalist flags in Loyalist areas.

Surely the message they are sending is directed at members of their own community?
 
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