Vaccine sceptics are coming to the fore in the US

soubresauts

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This is the big health news in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html

The vaccine sceptics are also coming out with powerful documentary films. The latest is a series called "Vaccines Revealed" which you can view online starting today:

Vaccines Revealed | The Truth About Vaccines

My hope is that governments will consider withdrawing public funding from vaccination. If vaccines are so good, so safe, and so effective, then surely they can sell themselves. Let the adults who want them pay for them.

Why should people who don't want vaccination have to subsidize this huge, expensive, reckless experiment with public health that has been going on for little more than one generation?
 


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This is the big health news in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html

The vaccine sceptics are also coming out with powerful documentary films. The latest is a series called "Vaccines Revealed" which you can view online starting today:

Vaccines Revealed | The Truth About Vaccines

My hope is that governments will consider withdrawing public funding from vaccination. If vaccines are so good, so safe, and so effective, then surely they can sell themselves. Let the adults who want them pay for them.

Why should people who don't want vaccination have to subsidize this huge, expensive, reckless experiment with public health that has been going on for little more than one generation?
It looks like that the new US administration is made up out of total idiots.
 

onetimeonly

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No Flat Earthers yet?
Anyone that we'll need to keep Buzz Aldrin away from (for their own safety) made it to the government yet?

There has to people that are now considering that even if Trump is better than Clinton would have been, that this government is still an utter abomination.
 

Bleu Poppy

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This is the big health news in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html

The vaccine sceptics are also coming out with powerful documentary films. The latest is a series called "Vaccines Revealed" which you can view online starting today:

Vaccines Revealed | The Truth About Vaccines

My hope is that governments will consider withdrawing public funding from vaccination. If vaccines are so good, so safe, and so effective, then surely they can sell themselves. Let the adults who want them pay for them.

Why should people who don't want vaccination have to subsidize this huge, expensive, reckless experiment with public health that has been going on for little more than one generation?
Tell us, how was the fight against Smallpox won? Go on......

How was Polio eradicated so successfully?...... go on- tell us.

How were CHILDHOOD illnesses, that leave youngsters blind, debilitated, or dead, practically defeated? And only rise to cripple and maim or worse, leave a trail of grief behind when vaccination rates fall Can you bear to tell us?

Death and destruction wrought by Diphteria, Rubella, Measles, Miscarriages or Congenital defects brought about by mothers being infected by these wickednesses during pregnancy- all a thing of the past for most. Why?

Perhaps those that wish to push back time could be encouraged to found their own nation, migrate to a suitable place to establish it, breed there, get infected there, and die there. And provide a solution to the Rockall issue.

Can I contribute to your one-way ticket?
 

soubresauts

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Nearly everyone has been brainwashed into thinking that vaccination is necessary, is safe, and is very effective. It is not necessary, it is not safe, and it is not very effective.

No one needs vaccination.
 

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Nearly everyone has been brainwashed into thinking that vaccination is necessary, is safe, and is very effective. It is not necessary, it is not safe, and it is not very effective.

No one needs vaccination.
You are a moron.
 

venusian

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This is the big health news in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html

The vaccine sceptics are also coming out with powerful documentary films. The latest is a series called "Vaccines Revealed" which you can view online starting today:

Vaccines Revealed | The Truth About Vaccines

My hope is that governments will consider withdrawing public funding from vaccination. If vaccines are so good, so safe, and so effective, then surely they can sell themselves. Let the adults who want them pay for them.

Why should people who don't want vaccination have to subsidize this huge, expensive, reckless experiment with public health that has been going on for little more than one generation?
What experiment? The effectivity of vaccines is proven peer reviewed science over decades.
 

Destiny's Soldier

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if true another reason to like the Donald.

Vaccine skeptic says he's been asked to lead Trump vaccine commission | TheHill

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a noted vaccine skeptic, said Tuesday that he's accepted President-elect Donald Trump's offer to chair a commission to investigate vaccine safety. But Trump's transition said later Tuesday no decision has been made on the potential commission.

Kennedy told reporters in the lobby of Trump Tower in Manhattan about the forthcoming position after a meeting with the president-elect.

"He asked me to chair a commission on vaccine safety and scientific integrity ... I said I would," he said.
 

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Only a complete moron would consider a vaccination a bad thing, smallpox and tb and other major killers have been virtually erraticated, but these anti vaccination crowd would rather use scare tactics and conspiracies, putting the lives of children at risk disgraceful.
 

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OP. Is Trump your new pal?

It looks like saner voices in his own administration are pouring cold water on the idea already.
Hours later, however, a spokeswoman for Trump’s transition said that while Trump would like to create a commission on autism, no final decision had been made.
 

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Nearly everyone has been brainwashed into thinking that vaccination is necessary, is safe, and is very effective. It is not necessary, it is not safe, and it is not very effective.

No one needs vaccination.
I hope you dont have any children.
 

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The anarchist in me want the non-vaccers to forego the usual injections, then watch the chaos unfold from the sidelines.

The problem, of course, is that it's their kids who will suffer, not them (at least directly).

It's a symptom of living in a safe & healthy society.
Few people alive today remember the likes of polio, smallpox or various birth defects from preventable pregnancy illnesses, so they lose the connection between their absence and vaccinations.

Thankfully, most of us have the intelligence to know putting our hand in the fire hurts, without actually having to do it.
 

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This is the big health news in America:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html

The vaccine sceptics are also coming out with powerful documentary films. The latest is a series called "Vaccines Revealed" which you can view online starting today:

Vaccines Revealed | The Truth About Vaccines

My hope is that governments will consider withdrawing public funding from vaccination. If vaccines are so good, so safe, and so effective, then surely they can sell themselves. Let the adults who want them pay for them.

Why should people who don't want vaccination have to subsidize this huge, expensive, reckless experiment with public health that has been going on for little more than one generation?

I don't know how you get away with constantly peddling this nonsense on here and elsewhere.

Any links to that nutty website you had on here before? People like you cause parents to doubt and then when there is enough doubt they don't vaccinate in sufficient numbers and children get ill or die needlessly.

Vaccines are one of the most marvelous scientific achievements ever.
 

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The problem, of course, is that it's their kids who will suffer, not them (at least directly).

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Actually the reason Soubresauts, who has not vaccinated her children if I remember rightly, get away with it for their children is that they have herd immunity. Woe betide her kids if they leave the sheltered West though.
 

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Andrew wakefield certainly has a lot to answer for.
Persumable he's a hero of the OPer.

For those that don't know the damage that 'doctor' did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

Between July 2007 and May 2010, a 217-day "fitness to practise" hearing of the UK General Medical Council examined charges of professional misconduct against Wakefield and two colleagues involved in the paper in The Lancet.[87][88] The charges included that he:
"Was being paid to conduct the study by solicitors representing parents who believed their children had been harmed by MMR".[87]....

Wakefield denied the charges;[89] on 28 January 2010, the GMC ruled against Wakefield on all issues, stating that he had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant",[13] acted against the interests of his patients,[13] and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his controversial r


Counter this Soubresauts:

There has been a huge impact from the Wakefield fiasco ... This spawned a whole anti-vaccine movement. Great Britain has seen measles outbreaks. It probably resulted in a lot of deaths
 


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