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Varadkar: If there is a hard Brexit, the border would require police and army presence



brughahaha

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He is talking of British troops. He said that we would not put up a hard border for the last two years he has been consistent.
Yes consistently misinformed ..or more likely, lying ...as the EU pointed out to him this week
 

cytex

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Yes consistently misinformed ..or more likely, lying ...as the EU pointed out to him this week
Or just going to put the border with the EU into the ports and allow Britian access to our markets with subpar food etc. It's the only way he can do it and keep to what he is saying.
 

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I think he has played a great game --- with the poor hand of cards that he had. A hard medicine to swallow. Not the first time that the Irish people's destiny has been nudged/snookered into a disadvantageous position by the northern pro-british majority/minority?
 

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Had he any adviser with him in Davos?

Is binn béal ina dtost might have been the better option
 

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RasherHash

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Had he any adviser with him in Davos?

Is binn béal ina dtost might have been the better option
A whole planeload...thanks to the taxpayer :mad2:
 

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The useless cúnt just finished telling us there'd be no hard border, now he's gone full mental retard and is talking about imposing just that.

A liar as well as incompetent :mad2:
Oh fück off. Any consequences of Brexit will be the fault of the UK and the UK alone.
 

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Suggest that people read the piece in full before going off on a DUP rant.
He refers to a "worst case scenario" leading to this.
I'm no fan of Varadkar or of this government, but I think they've played their Brexit hand quite skillfully.
 

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I think he has played a great game --- with the poor hand of cards that he had. A hard medicine to swallow. Not the first time that the Irish people's destiny has been nudged/snookered into a disadvantageous position by the northern pro-british majority/minority?



I think the guy is telling the looney Brexiteers they need to WTFU in the interests of the NI peace process.
 

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Strange, for 2 years he has categorically said that there would be no hard border even if there was a hard Brexit. :unsure:

What happened?


- Taoiseach warns of troops on border - Independent.ie
Hey,
Told youse all that numerous times.
Leo will be forced by the EU to enforce the border.

Off course he's chatting about the Eire army as he has no authority now influence to chat about what our British government will do.
 

Mickeymac

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Hey,
Told youse all that numerous times.
Leo will be forced by the EU to enforce the border.

Off course he's chatting about the Eire army as he has no authority now influence to chat about what our British government will do.


Oh Boy.....


 

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Will the army not be needed for the ATMs in case of hard brexit?
 

cytex

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Hey,
Told youse all that numerous times.
Leo will be forced by the EU to enforce the border.

Off course he's chatting about the Eire army as he has no authority now influence to chat about what our British government will do.
"He was not referring to Irish personnel and the Irish government has no plans to deploy infrastructure or personnel at the border."
The BBC begs to differ
Troops could return to Irish border, warns Varadkar - BBC News
 

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McDonald has it right.
He needs to back this up with a move towards a border poll - and voice strong support for a UI in a hard Brexit scenario.
 

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Will Leo have the cojones to threaten a veto on A50 extension if the Backstop looks like being time-limited?
The irony being, of course, doing so would hasten the possibility of a hard border.
But then again faced with no deal exit on 30 March Labour might submit to May's deal.
 

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Orignally Leo was being deliberately weasely when he said "possibly a police presence, or an army presence to back it up"
He did not mention whose army.
In reality it could be Irish army, British army, or an EU force, or all three.

Then some un-named govt. source in Ireland has apparently implied later that it would be only the British army. Although he didn't actually say it would be them, just that it wouldn't be the Irish army.

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on here. Leo is trying to introduce the idea very gradually to the Irish electorate that following any No Deal Brexit, the EU would require us to impose a hard border on ourselves.

Somebody in his staff then thought he had gone too quickly, and moved to water down his comments a bit.
Its a similar strategy to what we have seen in Brussels in the lat few days - one guy saying its obvious there will be a hard border, then another saying the EU will ensure the backstop arrangement.
Claim and counter claim. Doubt is introduced. The full truthful admission comes later.

Apart from anything else, its up to the British govt. to say where the British army will be deployed. Anyone else telling us where they will be deployed is obviously talking through their hole.
 

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Orignally Leo was being deliberately weasely when he said "possibly a police presence, or an army presence to back it up"
He did not mention whose army.
In reality it could be Irish army, British army, or an EU force, or all three.

Then some un-named govt. source in Ireland has apparently implied later that it would be only the British army. Although he didn't actually say it would be them, just that it wouldn't be the Irish army.

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on here. Leo is trying to introduce the idea very gradually to the Irish electorate that following any No Deal Brexit, the EU would require us to impose a hard border on ourselves.

Somebody in his staff then thought he had gone too quickly, and moved to water down his comments a bit.
Its a similar strategy to what we have seen in Brussels in the lat few days - one guy saying its obvious there will be a hard border, then another saying the EU will ensure the backstop arrangement.
Claim and counter claim. Doubt is introduced. The full truthful admission comes later.

Apart from anything else, its up to the British govt. to say where the British army will be deployed. Anyone else telling us where they will be deployed is obviously talking through their hole.
Varadkar ‘contradicting everything we have been told’ about Brexit – Martin

"Speaking from the Swiss resort of Davos where he is attending the World Economic Forum, Mr Varadkar said in a no-deal scenario, a hard border “would involve customs posts, it would involve people in uniform and it may involve the need, for example, for cameras, physical infrastructure, possibly a police presence or army presence to back it up”.

“The problem with that in the context of Irish politics and history is those things become targets,” the Taoiseach told Bloomberg Television during an interview on Friday."

Varadkar is repeating what Eamon McCann from Derry has been saying since just after the result of the Brexit referendum. McCann put it quite simply in an interview with Pat Kenny on Newstalk the other morning. He said any infrastructure on the border, even just cameras, would be shot at. People would need to be brought in to protect that infrastructure. Then they too would be shot at.

It's a simple but not simplistic explanation of the result of the imposition of border infrastructure, based on the evidence of history.
 

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