Varadkar: If there is a hard Brexit, the border would require police and army presence

yosef shompeter

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Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
Oh fück off. Any consequences of Brexit will be the fault of the UK and the UK alone.
That's exactly what Leo has told them sir.:thumbsup:
But don't you understand, that whereas it will be the fault of the Brits 100% that we on this island will be wiping up the mess for the next decade or so?
 


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Amusing to see reality striking that a hard border will be required. Our subservient media have spent the last 18 months slapping Leo and the civil servants on the back for their brilliant diplomacy.

We will need a hard border in NI if we fail to implement one we face travel and export restrictions when entering other EU countries. Leo wanna get the finger out and move beyong sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting " backstop" as has been his policy to date.
 

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I think he has played a great game --- with the poor hand of cards that he had. A hard medicine to swallow. Not the first time that the Irish people's destiny has been nudged/snookered into a disadvantageous position by the northern pro-british majority/minority?
We British own Northern Ireland and will do whatever we want as legally we are entitled and recognised to.
 

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But don't you understand, that whereas it will be the fault of the Brits 100% that we on this island will be wiping up the mess for the next decade or so?
*shrugs*

Twas ever thus, and ever will be thus.

The British Government are nothing but a rabble of cowardly pikeys. When the time comes they'll scurry off the island and dump whatever mess they like all over the north. And we'll have to spend a generation or two cleaning up their mess.

Expecting the British to "do the right thing" and behave with slightly more evolution and class during their final withdrawal than your average ebola virus is the expectation of a naive, childish fool.
 

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*shrugs*

Twas ever thus, and ever will be thus.

The British Government are nothing but a rabble of cowardly pikeys. When the time comes they'll scurry off the island and dump whatever mess they like all over the north. And we'll have to spend a generation or two cleaning up their mess.

Expecting the British to "do the right thing" and behave with slightly more evolution and class during their final withdrawal than your average ebola virus is the expectation of a naive, childish fool.

Why would we out of our way to help you savages who killed British soldiers in your disgusting bloodlust and ungratefully betrayed us? Yes you better get used to the idea we will do whatever we want as your lot surrendered to the glorious crown forces.
 

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It seems to me that Varadkar does have one eternal Irish ace up his sleeve. He could assure the EU that Ireland would do its best to police such a long, long border with customs checking on all country roads but as he'd like to explain we can only do what w have with the resources available to us and with the austerity enforced by large bank debt payments we couldn't get any concessions on from the ECB that time.

People in Northern Ireland won't give a shyte if the Gardai and Irish Customs and Excise don't do a very good job of protecting the EU customs area.

Varadkar needs, in case the EU start acting the heavy later about demanding the Republic police that border, to develop a big grin and some phrase that conveys 'we'll do our best, shur, but we're not that bothered.'
 

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The only thing left would be for the EU to get behind Irish reunification as a way of effectively managing its own customs areas.

Checkmate.
 

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Amusing to see reality striking that a hard border will be required. Our subservient media have spent the last 18 months slapping Leo and the civil servants on the back for their brilliant diplomacy.

We will need a hard border in NI if we fail to implement one we face travel and export restrictions when entering other EU countries. Leo wanna get the finger out and move beyong sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting " backstop" as has been his policy to date.
It's funny to hear Leo and the foreign minister saying that the WA or backstop is needed to stop a hard border when it is exactly because of that Backstop, that there is going to be A No Deal and the EU will make Ireland enforce the hard border.
 

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The only thing left would be for the EU to get behind Irish reunification as a way of effectively managing its own customs areas.

Checkmate.
Or....... Expel the Republic of Ireland from the EU. Job done at a fraction of the cost and no loss whatsoever to the EU(your pitiful nett contribution not withstanding). In fact money that would be massively recouped with being able to tax the MNCs laundering their money in the Republic.
 

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Or....... Expel the Republic of Ireland from the EU. Job done at a fraction of the cost and no loss whatsoever to the EU(your pitiful nett contribution not withstanding). In fact money that would be massively recouped with being able to tax the MNCs laundering their money in the Republic.
That would be assuming that Ireland would be as stupid as the British to shoot themselves in the foot cos bendy bananas and sunny uplands.
 

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It's funny to hear Leo and the foreign minister saying that the WA or backstop is needed to stop a hard border when it is exactly because of that Backstop, that there is going to be A No Deal and the EU will make Ireland enforce the hard border.
This is true, and the bleating of Coveney is sounding increasingly desperate and pathetic.
" But I won, The Backstop was already agreed, its not fair..."
 

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This is true, and the bleating of Coveney is sounding increasingly desperate and pathetic.
" But I won, The Backstop was already agreed, its not fair..."
Heard him tell the Andrew Marr show what the British public should be doing.
Instead of listening to the British public he arrogantly thought he could tell them what to do.
That's what got him into this trouble.
He is causing the problem that he claims they don't want.
 

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Leo told the truth.

It's just a fact.
 

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As a member state with a veto, Ireland would have to vote to expel itself.

The reason I said stupid is that the UK has no plan and never had a plan as to how to go forward outside the EU. And that is because the UK is being led by donkeys.
 

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Heard him tell the Andrew Marr show what the British public should be doing.
Instead of listening to the British public he arrogantly thought he could tell them what to do.
That's what got him into this trouble.
He is causing the problem that he claims they don't want.
The second he or his government are not representing Irish interests is the day he's politically dead. If the British are stupid enough to think a no deal exit is the way to go, and I see nobody else except stupid Brits suggesting such, then nobody else can protect them from their own stupidity, and the whole world gets to see stupidity reigning in Blighty. Cheered on by unionists, cos the world is still supposed to still give a toss about some dutch lad a few centuries ago.
 

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The second he or his government are not representing Irish interests is the day he's politically dead. If the British are stupid enough to think a no deal exit is the way to go, and I see nobody else except stupid Brits suggesting such, then nobody else can protect them from their own stupidity, and the whole world gets to see stupidity reigning in Blighty. Cheered on by unionists, cos the world is still supposed to still give a toss about some dutch lad a few centuries ago.
Eire can't hold the UK to ransom.
The farcical argument that a backstop is needed to avoid a hard border when they know having the backstop will make Eire enforce the hard border.
 

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Eire can't hold the UK to ransom.
The farcical argument that a backstop is needed to avoid a hard border when they know having the backstop will make Eire enforce the hard border.
Ireland is not doing the negotiating, the EU is. In order, Ireland's interests are
1. No border.
2. Good Trade deal.

The EU have made plain that 1 comes before 2. Indeed I find it disturbing the lack of interest from unionist parties to defend GFA, the very basis for peace the past 20 years. Why are unionists so willing to undermine politics on the island and leaving oxygen for nutters?
 

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As a member state with a veto, Ireland would have to vote to expel itself.

The reason I said stupid is that the UK has no plan and never had a plan as to how to go forward outside the EU. And that is because the UK is being led by donkeys.
I'm sure Greece had a veto and they threatened to expel them.

It's Germany and Frances ball and they can take it home any time they want.
 


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