Varadkar will not implement hard border in event of hard Brexit


ruserious

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Ive noticed Varadkar getting weaker in his statements the last couple of weeks. This confirms it. It removes the prisoners dilemma trump card he held.
 

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He just saying it as it is. Both ROI and GB governments are precluded from putting in a hard border. So it can't happen. End of story. What's the issue?
 

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Has he run this one by Barnier? :shock2:

This will surely give all the hard Brexiteers all the ammunition they want. Just walk away with no deal and there will be an open border on the island of Ireland :roll:


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/varadkar-hard-border-will-just-never-happen-ever-36997450.html
We are fighting a rear-guard action now

- in the end the EU will cut a deal with the Brits

- and we will be shunted to one side...

Up the Republic, they raise their battle cry
Pearse and McDermott will pray for you on high
Eager and ready, for love of you they die
Proud march the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Chorus:
Legion of the rearguard, answering Ireland's call
Hark, their marshall tramp is heard from Cork to Donegal
Wolfe Tone and Emmett guide you, though your task be hard
Varadkar leads you, Soldiers of the Legion of the Rearguard

Glorious the morning through flame and shot and shell
Now, rally Ireland, your sons who love you well
Pledged they'll defend you, though death or prison cell
Wait for the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Crimson the roadside, the prison walls that gave
Proof of their valour, go sleep in peace ye brave
Comrades tread lightly, you're near a hero's grave
Proud die the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Shell shattered fortress and shot scarred brigade
Trump et the story of the glorious fight they made
Wearied, outnumbered, undaunted, unafraid
God bless the Soldiers of the Rearguard
 

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He just saying it as it is. Both ROI and GB governments are precluded from putting in a hard border. So it can't happen. End of story. What's the issue?
What precludes them from setting up a hard border?
 

Niall996

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We are fighting a rear-guard action now

- in the end the EU will cut a deal with the Brits

- and we will shunted to one side...

Up the Republic, they raise their battle cry
Pearse and McDermott will pray for you on high
Eager and ready, for love of you they die
Proud march the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Chorus:
Legion of the rearguard, answering Ireland's call
Hark, their marshall tramp is heard from Cork to Donegal
Wolfe Tone and Emmett guide you, though your task be hard
Varadkar leads you, Soldiers of the Legion of the Rearguard

Glorious the morning through flame and shot and shell
Now, rally Ireland, your sons who love you well
Pledged they'll defend you, though death or prison cell
Wait for the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Crimson the roadside, the prison walls that gave
Proof of their valour, go sleep in peace ye brave
Comrades tread lightly, you're near a hero's grave
Proud die the Soldiers of the Rearguard

Shell shattered fortress and shot scarred brigade
Trump et the story of the glorious fight they made
Wearied, outnumbered, undaunted, unafraid
God bless the Soldiers of the Rearguard
Ya nutter. Relax. It's all good and on track. This is a done deal. If anything Varadkar is giving the game away a it by being too visibly relaxed. He know's it's in the bag. but he needs to look a little more stressed to give the hard brexiters some false hope and keep them occupied.
 

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What precludes them from setting up a hard border?
The GFA. So it can't be built. Even if it was built it would be pulled down anyway. And it's just not physically possible with so many crossings. It just aint ever going to happen. Varadkar is right.
 

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The GFA. So it can't be built. Even if it was built it would be pulled down anyway. And it's just not physically possible with so many crossings. It jjust aint ever going to happen. Varadkar is right.
What section of the GFA?
 

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King Knut.
 

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How about a hard border that starts at Calais, and leave the CTA in place ?

It would even result in Ireland having more sovereignty at the expense of imperial HQ in brussels.
 

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How about a hard border that starts at Calais, and leave the CTA in place ?

It would even result in Ireland having more sovereignty at the expense of imperial HQ in brussels.

Yes is the best solution. Special status for the Free State in United Kingdom.

Would ensure no need for any kind of border on island. Obviously EU happy with this too since they offered a special deal to NI too to maintain the GFA.
 

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How about a hard border that starts at Calais, and leave the CTA in place ?

It would even result in Ireland having more sovereignty at the expense of imperial HQ in brussels.
Nah - that would just reward Londons inflexibility.

Scrap the CTA - it's an anachronism belonging to the history books. We should join Schengen.

You know that makes much more sense in the long term.
 

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Nah - that would just reward Londons inflexibility.

Scrap the CTA - it's an anachronism belonging to the history books. We should join Schengen.

You know that makes much more sense in the long term.


It would be a great deal for Ireland to be in the EU and have free access to UK market too. Would certainly mean Ireland best place to locate for business in whole of Europe.
 

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Nah - that would just reward Londons inflexibility.

Scrap the CTA - it's an anachronism belonging to the history books. We should join Schengen.

You know that makes much more sense in the long term.
Phuck Schengen.

Keep the CTA. And gradually get out of the nEU empire.
 

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It would be a great deal for Ireland to be in the EU and have free access to UK market too. Would certainly mean Ireland best place to locate for business in whole of Europe.
The Brexit vote in the UK is a vote for self-imposed isolation and irrelevance. In a choice between whether to maintain the CTA or Schengen, Schengen trumps everytime.
 

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Nah - that would just reward Londons inflexibility.

Scrap the CTA - it's an anachronism belonging to the history books. We should join Schengen.

You know that makes much more sense in the long term.
We have already de facto left the CTA. All passports are scanned at Dublin Airport. Only the Brits don't seem to have noticed.
 

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Phuck Schengen.

Keep the CTA. And gradually get out of the nEU empire.
You prefer membership of the You Kay to membership of the EU?
 
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