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Varadkar will not implement hard border in event of hard Brexit


Dame_Enda

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That is not the way a no deal Brexit will work, there will be delays at the Channel ports, the Brits are planning extra sailings from minor ports to ease pressure on the main ones. We can control congestion at Irish ports and increase capacity on direct routes but the channel delays can only be solved by the Brits.
And where is the evidence the govt is working to increase capacity at Irish ports? The soundings from Irish Ferries on ending their French service next year don't inspire confidence.
 

wombat

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And where is the evidence the govt is working to increase capacity at Irish ports? The soundings from Irish Ferries on ending their French service next year don't inspire confidence.
Its questionable whether capacity needs to expand. The proposal from IF to switch from Rosslare to Dublin to meet demand indicates that there is plenty of capacity in the system. Our biggest problem will be if the channel ports become so congested that truckers will have to switch to direct sailings. Its all about cost, its more profitable to drive through the UK and cross the English channel than to sail directly from Ireland to the continent, the problem is that we don't know if that will change.
 

cranberry1

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Just build a tunnel to France , the EU can fund it , after all they do have Irelands best interests at heart .
 

Tippytop

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Its questionable whether capacity needs to expand. The proposal from IF to switch from Rosslare to Dublin to meet demand indicates that there is plenty of capacity in the system. Our biggest problem will be if the channel ports become so congested that truckers will have to switch to direct sailings. Its all about cost, its more profitable to drive through the UK and cross the English channel than to sail directly from Ireland to the continent, the problem is that we don't know if that will change.
At last! Somebody in ROI gets it! I have asked my ass off about this on another thread, to ship around the island of britain is going to cost $$$$$$$$ but nobody seems to see it
 

Connollyist a/c no.2

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He'll do whatever his EU masters tell him too. Varadkar is Barnier's bulldog.

Hopefully if an EU-imposed hard border happens the Irish people will be injected with a bit of realism about the EU project and Fine Gael.
 

wombat

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At last! Somebody in ROI gets it! I have asked my ass off about this on another thread, to ship around the island of britain is going to cost $$$$$$$$ but nobody seems to see it
The shipping companies know it and so do the trucking companies. It will need massive delays over a period of time to make the investment in new ships worthwhile.
 

cranberry1

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He'll do whatever his EU masters tell him too. Varadkar is Barnier's bulldog.

Hopefully if an EU-imposed hard border happens the Irish people will be injected with a bit of realism about the EU project and Fine Gael.
Now now your insulting Bulldogs , he's more like an annoying jack Russel .
 

flavirostris

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Now now your insulting Bulldogs , he's more like an annoying jack Russel .
He's Barnier's prize poodle. Led around on a leash and occasionally snapping angrily at the British bulldog.
 

flavirostris

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A SF Brexit Minister would sort that sh1t out in two seconds pal.
No they wouldn't. They'd just be competing with Varadkar over who could suck Barnier's dick more furiously.

You have some kind of quaint delusion that SF are somehow working in your interests.
 

Paddy{ie

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Its questionable whether capacity needs to expand. The proposal from IF to switch from Rosslare to Dublin to meet demand indicates that there is plenty of capacity in the system. Our biggest problem will be if the channel ports become so congested that truckers will have to switch to direct sailings. Its all about cost, its more profitable to drive through the UK and cross the English channel than to sail directly from Ireland to the continent, the problem is that we don't know if that will change.
- Using a direct ferry from Ireland to the continent is cheaper than going landbridge. The advantage of landbridge is a quicker transit time. In reality, if there were daily departures to/from the likes of Zeebrugge / Rotterdam / Calais, then the transit time issue would be negated mostly as there are drivers hours and working time directives involved.
- Unaccompanied services direct to/from mainland europe (trailer only ships and is delivered/picked up by a local hauler) have started to flourish. Transit times to/from mainland Europe are almost as good as land bridge.*
- Container services to/from mainland europe have been putting it up to haulers since at least 20 years ago. Transit times are almost as good as landbridge*

* These unaccompanied and container services are not daily. If they were, given the driving hours and working time directives, there would be very little effect on transit time.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Leo doesn't understand that the UK could still implement a hard border without us.
Indeed, given the rationale for Brexit - control immigration and own their own borders, it's fairly obvious. But like everything else that Varadkar makes a mess of, he'll have a great excuse - "it was the Brits did it".
 
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