Vasectomy Money ran out in March. What are Irish women going we to do?

valamhic

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Just when the world was biting its nails in the hope that President Trump and Supreme Leftist leader Kim Flung Dung would pull it off, Irish people are warned by a Doctor of an impending disaster. The annual money our wonderful government put aside to provide vasectomies ran out in March. Government views the procedure which is carried out on men as essential in the liberation of women who don’t have to bother about contraception.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/vasectomy-funds-for-year-spent-by-march-warns-gp-36996360.html

A survey carried out in Britain found that of 1,000 married men who were vasectomized in 2013, only 34 (.34%) of their wives later conceived a baby. Waterford GP Dr Fergus McMarried said that  "They are saying a lot of people who go for the abortions are not 22-year-olds at the start of planning their families.
"There are actually quite a good few people at the end of their family planning, the 38-year-olds, and they are surprised when a crisis pregnancy occurs and they are heading over to the United Kingdom for an abortion.
"If that is the case, you can prevent that altogether by making vasectomy more widely available and when people are decided their family is done they can go and get a vasectomy and that's the end of it," he told the 'Irish Medical Times'.

Doctors association President Mattie O’Tool denounced a proposal by the Minister for Health Simon Harrisment to have the procedure carried out over 2 years to spread the money out for another 3 months. A half vasectomy is no vasectomy at all he said. "You were better complete the job in one operation than split it into 2 stages," he said.

"If that is the case, you can prevent that altogether by making vasectomy more widely available and when people are decided their family is done they can go and get a vasectomy and that's the end of it," he told the 'Irish Medical Times'.
Nurse Bridie Scalpel said an injection of cash is needed because with no funding available she expects to be laid off and has contacted her union the INO, seeking severance pay.

I invite discussion, but I feel there should be a helpline for couples on the waiting list, but whose male partner was not yet done. I think the best thing is to abstain until next year and hope more money will become available.
 


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The real issue:

Why is an elective procedure like a vasectomy state funded?
 

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Valamhic, you are suffering from psychosis. You should seek psychiatric help immediately.
 

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So is the article wrong? It said 35,000 euros was allocated. I saw the article in the actual printed edition of the newspaper yesterday.

There is no doubt that it is state funded.
 

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The real issue:

Why is an elective procedure like a vasectomy state funded?
This is a very good question and I am not sure. i suspect its to keep the Irish Population numbers low so the population can be replaced by the children of migrants of other religions as part of the leftie agenda. The Doctors quoted believe it is necessary tp reduce abortion.
 

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One presumes that money was for men with medical cards. It's a really simple operation so it can't cost much. It's only day surgery and you're fully awake. It has practically zero side affects and it means no chance of a crisis pregnancy.
 

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Just when the world was biting its nails in the hope that President Trump and Supreme Leftist leader Kim Flung Dung would pull it off, Irish people are warned by a Doctor of an impending disaster. The annual money our wonderful government put aside to provide vasectomies ran out in March. Government views the procedure which is carried out on men as essential in the liberation of women who don’t have to bother about contraception.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/vasectomy-funds-for-year-spent-by-march-warns-gp-36996360.html

A survey carried out in Britain found that of 1,000 married men who were vasectomized in 2013, only 34 (.34%) of their wives later conceived a baby. Waterford GP Dr Fergus McMarried said that  "They are saying a lot of people who go for the abortions are not 22-year-olds at the start of planning their families.
"There are actually quite a good few people at the end of their family planning, the 38-year-olds, and they are surprised when a crisis pregnancy occurs and they are heading over to the United Kingdom for an abortion.
"If that is the case, you can prevent that altogether by making vasectomy more widely available and when people are decided their family is done they can go and get a vasectomy and that's the end of it," he told the 'Irish Medical Times'.

Doctors association President Mattie O’Tool denounced a proposal by the Minister for Health Simon Harrisment to have the procedure carried out over 2 years to spread the money out for another 3 months. A half vasectomy is no vasectomy at all he said. "You were better complete the job in one operation than split it into 2 stages," he said.

"If that is the case, you can prevent that altogether by making vasectomy more widely available and when people are decided their family is done they can go and get a vasectomy and that's the end of it," he told the 'Irish Medical Times'.
Nurse Bridie Scalpel said an injection of cash is needed because with no funding available she expects to be laid off and has contacted her union the INO, seeking severance pay.

I invite discussion, but I feel there should be a helpline for couples on the waiting list, but whose male partner was not yet done. I think the best thing is to abstain until next year and hope more money will become available.
WTF? Why don't people pay for their own snips? FFS, this country.
 

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WTF? Why don't people pay for their own snips? FFS, this country.
TBH vasectomies can save a lot of tax payers money, so in many cases they're an investment.

Bizarre that a MoH who's just gone to bat for the abortion industry and who has gushed at the prospect of paying for abortions, lots of abortions, and free travel to the UK until it's legal here, etc., would baulk at funding vasectomies that would reduce the number of abortions required.

It's as if he didn't really want to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancies , just wanted to be part of the abortion zeitgeist.
 

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One presumes that money was for men with medical cards. It's a really simple operation so it can't cost much. It's only day surgery and you're fully awake. It has practically zero side affects and it means no chance of a crisis pregnancy.
...but the state seems far happier to pay for the inevitable abortion...far better to pay good money to solve a problem than avoiding the problem in the first place, eh?
 

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TBH vasectomies can save a lot of tax payers money, so in many cases they're an investment.

Bizarre that a MoH who's just gone to bat for the abortion industry and who has gushed at the prospect of paying for abortions, lots of abortions, and free travel to the UK until it's legal here, etc., would baulk at funding vasectomies that would reduce the number of abortions required.

It's as if he didn't really want to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancies , just wanted to be part of the abortion zeitgeist.
My guess is that they don't save any taxpayers' money whatsoever. Those people that would get a vasectomy are the ones that are less likely to be sponging of other people to start with.

Put it this way, how many knackers get a vasectomy each year do you suppose?
 

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So is the article wrong? It said 35,000 euros was allocated. I saw the article in the actual printed edition of the newspaper yesterday.

There is no doubt that it is state funded.
I had to pay for mine, maybe if I had a medical card I could have got it free.
 

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My guess is that they don't save any taxpayers' money whatsoever. Those people that would get a vasectomy are the ones that are less likely to be sponging of other people to start with.

Put it this way, how many knackers get a vasectomy each year do you suppose?
Bizarre of course that 8 years into a largely "austerity" driven agenda for a FG government that they haven't capped CA at 2 kids for any kids born after a 9 month notice period.
 

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Bizarre of course that 8 years into a largely "austerity" driven agenda for a FG government that they haven't capped CA at 2 kids for any kids born after a 9 month notice period.
Surely many posters on here want white Irish to have as many kids as possible? Or did I misunderstand that message.
 

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One presumes that money was for men with medical cards. It's a really simple operation so it can't cost much. It's only day surgery and you're fully awake. It has practically zero side affects and it means no chance of a crisis pregnancy.
Well....no chance with that guy any way.
 


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