Video Game Morals Should be Integrated with Social and Economic Morals

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I have taken the liberty to upload a full documentary for your enjoyment which should open your eyes to something amazing and wonderful to see, especially to those with jaded pre-conceptions about the general industry.

(Choose the FREE option to download if you dont have rapidshare)
http://rapidshare.com/files/429133728/rise.of.the.video.game.104.dsr.xvid-rakpwnage.avi

For a company to give up its entire legal right for the benefit of all involved shows true vision. Vision is something this country lacks infinitely.

This is a great watch. Its part of a series (which is fantastic).

At the end it also mentions more obscure social development projects. mm next episode then I guess :D

I am going to update this OP with more from this series for you guys if you like it because it is full of enlightenment :)
 


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Its not escapism, escapism doesn't even cover what it is. Its the ability to become whoever you are.
 

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I just realised that my soundcard... X-Fi Fatal1ty is branded for a professional gamer. He doesn't make games, but he plays them and makes a fortune.

This episode covers Second life and more. A real eye opener to the social powers of video games.

There is a bit of escapism in Virtual worlds as per the DOC but the mmorpg is only 1 sector of a very massive industry.

A great analogy in this episode is that if you put on a shirt and do up your hair then essentially you are an avatar! :)

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http://rapidshare.com/files/429139738/rise.of.the.video.game.105.dsr.xvid-rakpwnage.avi
 
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Sounds intriguing . Didnt watch it , dont have rapidshare . Second life is 'interesting' . Tipped around on it for a few days . Then a small rodent performed a sex act on me . I made my excuses and left .
 

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Sounds intriguing . Didnt watch it , dont have rapidshare . Second life is 'interesting' . Tipped around on it for a few days . Then a small rodent performed a sex act on me . I made my excuses and left .
You don't need rapidshare. Just choose no then click on free download :D
 

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Second Life just shows how many people find the world that capitalism has created to be unfit for human life, and have withdrawn into a virtual fantasy world. They thus, ironically, become the ultimate capitalist subject\consumer. A kind of vegatable who just gives off profit from his body, like a smell, but who is never involved enough in reality to ever change anything.
 

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Second Life just shows how many people find the world that capitalism has created to be unfit for human life, and have withdrawn into a virtual fantasy world.
What would be interesting to know is whether or not in 'Second Life' they create a virtual socialist paradise or simply replicate the capitalist world. Their choice would probably indicate their preference for the type of real world they would like to inhabit. Can anyone answer that as I have no such interest myself in virtual living?
 

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Second Life just shows how many people find the world that capitalism has created to be unfit for human life, and have withdrawn into a virtual fantasy world.
The poison of capitalism has even infected 'second life' . I understand people are making real money selling 'virtual' items .
Second life is a very 'money orientated' game/experience .
 

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What would be interesting to know is whether or not in 'Second Life' they create a virtual socialist paradise or simply replicate the capitalist world. Their choice would probably indicate their preference for the type of real world they would like to inhabit. Can anyone answer that as I have no such interest myself in virtual living?
Check out episode 5 or the 2nd video I posted, all your questions and more are answered.
 

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Second Life just shows how many people find the world that capitalism has created to be unfit for human life, and have withdrawn into a virtual fantasy world. They thus, ironically, become the ultimate capitalist subject\consumer. A kind of vegatable who just gives off profit from his body, like a smell, but who is never involved enough in reality to ever change anything.
Second Life is a naff simulation. What you need Cael is "Red Orchestra". It is a first person shooter where you can play on the Soviet or Axis sides during WW2. You'd enjoy it. Your team might even make you their Commissar. :)

Regards...jmcc
 

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The poison of capitalism has even infected 'second life' . I understand people are making real money selling 'virtual' items .
Second life is a very 'money orientated' game/experience .
So are you saying that in the virtual world that Cael says is an escape from capitalism people are simply creating another capitalist world. This seems an odd form of escape, particularly when people, in a fantasy world, presumably have the freedom to create whatever world they want. Are their no communist countries in 'Second Life'?
 

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So are you saying that in the virtual world that Cael says is an escape from capitalism people are simply creating another capitalist world. This seems an odd form of escape, particularly when people, in a fantasy world, presumably have the freedom to create whatever world they want. Are their no communist countries in 'Second Life'?
Not many . In order to get 'the full experience' one must purchase credits , with a card or paypal transaction.
 

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Not many . In order to get 'the full experience' one must purchase credits , with a card or paypal transaction.
So let me get this straight: Cael's theory is that people are taking to this virtual world in order to escape from the 'hell' of the capitalist world, even though this virtual world is itself capitalist. This seems like an odd theory to me.

Are their any communist virtual worlds out there? Are they popular?
 

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So are you saying that in the virtual world that Cael says is an escape from capitalism people are simply creating another capitalist world. This seems an odd form of escape, particularly when people, in a fantasy world, presumably have the freedom to create whatever world they want. Are their no communist countries in 'Second Life'?
This is true. I read about a clothes designer who couldnt make a living in the real world has gone over completely to designing virtual clothing for Second Life, and makes much more money. But, wait till Gucci and other corporate brands dicover virtual fashion design. Then, our sole trading designer will be put out of business again.
 

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So let me get this straight: Cael's theory is that people are taking to this virtual world in order to escape from the 'hell' of the capitalist world, even though this virtual world is itself capitalist. This seems like an odd theory to me.

Are their any communist virtual worlds out there? Are they popular?
Did I not say that in their escapism, they become the ultimate capitalist subject.
 

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This is true. I read about a clothes designer who couldnt make a living in the real world has gone over completely to designing virtual clothing for Second Life, and makes much more money. But, wait till Gucci and other corporate brands dicover virtual fashion design. Then, our sole trading designer will be put out of business again.
How entrepreneurial of her. Perhaps she will get to sell her online business to one of those big fashion companies. It seems odd to me that you suggest people are using these virtual worlds to escape capitalism for them only to recreate a capitalist world in the virtual one. How do you explain that?
 

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Are their any communist virtual worlds out there? Are they popular?
North Korea is still working on the technology . I think it could be a hit .
Seriously though , there are many 'games' online , where it pays to co operate , which I guess is kind of 'socialist' :?
 

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What would be interesting to know is whether or not in 'Second Life' they create a virtual socialist paradise or simply replicate the capitalist world.
Ironically, its in Hollywood blockbusters that you see the Comunist utopia being virtually created. A sudden disaster gives people the excuse to throw off the petty greed and egotism of capitalism, and band together as comrades, sharing all, and facing all danger in commune.
 

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Did I not say that in their escapism, they become the ultimate capitalist subject.
So what are they escaping from and why does this status as an 'ultimate capitalist subject' seem to give them such satisfaction?
 


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