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Views from the Irish autobahn system

Malbekh

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One does a lot of driving around this country, and the vast improvement we've seen in our national road network - thanks aaargh, to FF-led governments - has meant it's gotten a whole lot easier. Travelling to Cork and Galway are no longer overnight events, and it sure makes selling an easier game.

But it doesn't come without its problems. I have some very specific ones and I wonder if it strikes a cord with my, er, fellow travellers.

A couple of weeks ago I had a supplier over from the UK who had had a recent prostrate operation resulting in the necessity to use the loo every couple of hours. Travelling to Cork and Galway resulted in numerous unintentional stops which to be honest, quite frankly summarised the inability of the NRA and the government to do the basic things right.

Outside of Dublin, the level of traffic is reduced to such an extent that it actually is a danger in itself. In the UK and in France you have to be pretty much alert and keep your concentration levels on high at all times. Over here, the interaction with traffic on the motorways are so comparatively light, that the danger is falling asleep at the wheel. Which neatly ties in the observation above, not having proper motorway services throughout our motorway system is in itself, not only an inconvenience but a contribution to potential fatalities.

Finally, and most importantly, there is the issue of speed. I'm no saint, and I'll use the sat nav system to skim the speed the limit within what I consider to be an acceptable limit, so 122-124km/h. Regularly I'll be overtaken by cars doing 135-140 km/h and irregularly at 150 km/h+. This leads us to the central lack of regulation I've seen, practically no unmarked cars and only the occasional static radar check. At the speeds involved, it leaves no room for driver error, particularly when you consider the careless and inexperienced drivers we have over here in using our motorway systems. While motorways are statistically the safest roads to travel on, the nature of any accidents are catastrophic.

It's time to change our speeding legislation to reflect our new infrastructure. Speeding fines should reflect the excess involved. On the spot fines on a sliding scale in addition to a short ban is what's required, before it's too late.
 


YoungLiberal

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Dublin-Galway- 2.5 hours.

Numerous stops?

How often does your man go to the loo? It obviously isn't "every couple of hours".

Also, you're giving out because there's very little traffic?
 

Malbekh

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Dublin-Galway- 2.5 hours.

Numerous stops?

How often does your man go to the loo? It obviously isn't "every couple of hours".

Also, you're giving out because there's very little traffic?
The thing is apparently, to take every opportunity to take a pee, because once you feel the need to pee, it's already too late. N'est ce pas?

Oh don't get me wrong, little traffic is better than heavy traffic. A 3 hour detour through Bristol owing to a motorway shut down was more than enough for me last year. But heavy traffic does keep up your concentration levels, light traffic does the reverse, unless you refresh yourself at a service station...
 

Bleu Poppy

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Here are some of my griefs:
Bus Éireann stopping on the M7 to allow a passenger alight between junctions. He ran across the carriageway, climbed through the median before running across the next carriageway- which begs the question.... does the bus pick him up there when he travels in the morning?.
The number of people who stop in the hard shoulder to take a 'phone call on their mobiles.
I've seen cyclist go down a slip road near Limerick to enter the carriageway the wrong way to take the shortest route into the city (as the crow flies) which would bring into serious peril when he crossed the junction between the M20 and M7.

The Jim McDaid incident was well reported- we may have upgraded our roads but there are still a load of Neanderthals around.
 

SideysGhost

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Why did they decide to cancel the proposed roll-out of the 2+1 roads? The few that exist are grand, much cheaper than a motorway or dual carriageway, most good 2-lane N roads can be converted easily to 2+1. It means you are never stuck behind some numpty doing 40mph on the open road for more than a kilometre or so, so frustration levels are non-existant.

Deciding to cancel these in favour of ridiculously expensive dual carriageways and motorways that are not really any safer - and of course require land purchases and tolls - just shows the corrupt gombeen nature of the State and how FF's twin obsessions (land prices and finding some way to make a scam out of it) infect almost every decision any arm of the State makes.
 

jdwex

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Why did they decide to cancel the proposed roll-out of the 2+1 roads? The few that exist are grand, much cheaper than a motorway or dual carriageway, most good 2-lane N roads can be converted easily to 2+1. It means you are never stuck behind some numpty doing 40mph on the open road for more than a kilometre or so, so frustration levels are non-existant.
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Basically they will look at 2+2s rather than 2+1s. I think they found that there was a lot of aggressive overtaking as people came to near the end of a two lane section.
 

Telemachus

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The garages around newlands cross are making a fortune.
I'm sure the awarding of contracts to build the motorway stations will be a clear and transparent process.

I see little reason to enforce speed limits on the motorways. The main danger I find is noob drivers who stay in the right lane forcing me to reduce my speed to under 140kph.
 

SideysGhost

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Basically they will look at 2+2s rather than 2+1s. I think they found that there was a lot of aggressive overtaking as people came to near the end of a two lane section.
*sigh*

Typical of Ireland. They have a genuinely good idea, they build it, most people like it, but the thick-necked bellowing yahoo element pisses all over it.
 

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