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Vincent Browne and his idea for Sunday Business Post, a new Irish Peoples Paper, would you invest?


mido

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http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/media/barcelona-model-could-save-ailing-newspapers-1.1324136
Barcelona model could save ailing newspapers

Dev tricked public into investing in Irish Press, file reveals - Independent.ie

Vincent Browne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ireland's newspapers suffer continuing sales losses | Media | guardian.co.uk


good argument by Vincent in todays Irish Times for a new "peoples" sunday funded by 50,000 citizens and a democratically elected gender balanced board - an FC Barca in the media. Vincent has form in establishing and running papers/magazines that have stimulated debate and promoted new writers and journalists and carried out good investigative work - Magill being the prime example. while sympathetic to the idea the history of the people investing in papers and getting no return is perhaps best illustrated by the irish press given Vincents suggestion, the question is, would you invest given the falling circulation figures and questionable future for newspapers in general.
 

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invest in a Vinny venture, eh I think I'll pass
 

Tough Paddy

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He has form alright! One word of advice for anybody looking to invest in a Vincent Browne venture; run!
 

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If this has any of the success of anything like Magill and Village had, we will be sure to be seeing Vinny for a long time yet on TV3.
 

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Feck! There goes my coffee from laughing! :) Has Vinne ever run a publication that didn't crash and burn?
 

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Shure why would we ?

That's what the internet is for :D
 

mido

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Feck! There goes my coffee from laughing! :) Has Vinne ever run a publication that didn't crash and burn?
vinnie will not run it....see extracts below


"Essentially the idea is (and, obviously, variants of this might work also): that a public campaign be initiated to get 50,000 people to give ¤100 each to a new publishing venture that would be democratically controlled by the 50,000 members, who would elect the board of the company (an equal number of men and women) and decide on all the major corporate decisions that would arise (no single individual or corporation would be allowed control over more than one share)."

". “The Sunday Business Post ” would remain the title of the business section but the new package as a whole might be titled: “The Sunday People’s Post ”, covering the wider areas of interest that most Sunday newspapers cover.
It would rival the major domestic oligarch conglomerate, Independent News and Media, in which Denis O’Brien is the largest shareholder, and the major foreign oligarch conglomerate, News International, controlled by Rupert Murdoch. Freedom of the press is primarily a privilege of the owners of the press. If therefore the owners come from a wide base of citizens then freedom of the press can be enjoyed more democratically, and still be free of State interference.

It would be founded on an editorial charter, stating the objectives of the newspaper (to hold institutions of power and persons of power accountable; to reflect in the editorial policy and content of the newspaper a commitment to the ideals of fairness and equality in society; a promise to insist on scrupulous truthfulness and fairness in the newspaper’s reports and commentary; and independence from all vested interests)."

Special investigations could be funded by donations from the members. It requires merely the persuasiveness to get 50,000 people to contribute a modest amount and then the expertise to involve meaningfully the owners in the direction of the enterprise and the expertise to make a commercial and editorial success of the venture."

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Barcelona model could save ailing newspapers - Culture & Entertainment News | The Irish Times - Tue, Mar 12, 2013
Barcelona model could save ailing newspapers
 

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SBP is under-priced.

€2.70 I think.

With all those quality articles and advice a price of €5 would be more appropriate.

( Add a Sport Section and everything will be fine )
 

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vinnie will not run it....see extracts below
But no doubt he'd want some input?


"Essentially the idea is (and, obviously, variants of this might work also): that a public campaign be initiated to get 50,000 people to give ¤100 each to a new publishing venture that would be democratically controlled by the 50,000 members, who would elect the board of the company (an equal number of men and women) and decide on all the major corporate decisions that would arise (no single individual or corporation would be allowed control over more than one share)."
There's the big flaw - a gender balanced board. The most important thing is getting the best person for the job not someone merely elected to fill a quota. The whole wannabe journalist/writer business has enough tossers as it is and many of them already write for the Irish media. The vanity press business makes a good living from these wannabes.

The real issue is that Irish people no longer trust the Irish media and many do not even read a daily newspaper anymore. Despite the Labourite/Lefty rhetoric, it is another one of Vinnie's bailout ideas.
 

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SBP is under-priced.

€2.70 I think.

With all those quality articles and advice a price of €5 would be more appropriate.

( Add a Sport Section and everything will be fine )
Frank Fitzgibbon (editor of the Sunday Times) was a founder of the SBP and was quoted in the Sindo last week saying that in order to survive they will have to concentrate purely on their niche of business and politics; he even recommended that they ditch the magazine.
 

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Anyway, if Vincent has anything to do with editing a 'people's' SBP (is this the USSR?) it will no doubt be turgid, PC, right on dross. Expect weekly columns from Prof of Equality Studies Kathleen Lynch and liveblogging of Pavee Point meetings.
 

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Frank Fitzgibbon (editor of the Sunday Times) was a founder of the SBP and was quoted in the Sindo last week saying that in order to survive they will have to concentrate purely on their niche of business and politics; he even recommended that they ditch the magazine.
The Agenda section or the technology supplement?
 

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The Agenda section or the technology supplement?
I think he meant the Agenda section. Personally I find that the SBP can be a bit dry for a Sunday, and that the cultural stuff provides some blessed relief
 

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Anyway, if Vincent has anything to do with editing a 'people's' SBP (is this the USSR?) it will no doubt be turgid, PC, right on dross. Expect weekly columns from Prof of Equality Studies Kathleen Lynch and liveblogging of Pavee Point meetings.
It would be just one big Vincent Browne vanity project!
 

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Vincent and PC Pravda - just what we need alright. More lecturing the masses on the evils of everything not deemed pc by him and his cronies. Let's hope all the public teat sucking luvvies in the quangoes and ngo sector support it with their personal dosh and it crashes and burns bigtime.
 

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Change the name to The Sunday Post, make it centre-left and anti-troika, add a sports section and some celebrity sh1te and it might sell.
 

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Big fan of the cooperative ownership model, and would have no problem investing the initial fee if it meant something like this had a chance of taking off.
 

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Change the name to The Sunday Post, make it centre-left and anti-troika, add a sports section and some celebrity sh1te and it might sell.
So basically create a completely different paper :D
 
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