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Voting fraud/ID/suppression thread

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Wisconsin Republicans using lameduck session to pass restrictions on early voting before the new assembly and governor take over.
 


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Wisconsin Republicans using lameduck session to pass restrictions on early voting before the new assembly and governor take over.
Sore winners, sore losers.

As Kevin Drum says "Republicans just do not believe in that peaceful transfer of power stuff".

Peaceful Transfer of Power Update Mother Jones



Great example: Florida permits for concealed carry of a weapon were issued by the agriculture commissioner. Following the Parkland School Massacre, the Florida electorate made a Democrat agriculture commissioner. Presto! To please the NRA, the Republican Legislature have changed the responsibility to the finance department, I presume in case some deranged incel be deprived of his right to build up a stockpile of weapons.

Democrats have counterproposed that concealed-carry permits be handled by law enforcement, which actually makes sense, but so far Republicans are having none of it. They’re dedicated to stripping the ag commissioner of authority and giving it once again to a Republican.

There’s no telling how hard they’ll kowtow to the NRA on this, but for now it looks like we have four GOP states that are desperately trying to strip elected officials of power in lame duck sessions before Democrats take over.
Republican Lame-Duck Sessions try to strip power from incoming Democrats | FiveThirtyEight

North Carolina is on the map, because the Republican lame duck Legislature did the same in 2016. Appeal to the Trump Supreme Court? Ha-ha, very funny :lol:
 

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More on the NC voter fraud scandal. The Vice Chair of Bladen county Election board resigns. Turns out he donated to "Patriots for Progress", which is linked to Leslie McCrae Dowless, the convicted insurance fraudster alleged to be involved in the election fraud.,

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The fraud in NC involved "ballot harvesting", which is actually legal in California. Ballot harvesting seems to involve people going around collecting absentee ballots from people. In NC it seems ballots were destroyed or there were multiple votes by one person (one in NC seems to have voted 40 times). Its worth looking at weather ballot harvesting should be banned in California but its unlikely to be. Ballot harvesting I think is illegal in NC.
 

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The fraud in NC involved "ballot harvesting", which is actually legal in California. Ballot harvesting seems to involve people going around collecting absentee ballots from people. In NC it seems ballots were destroyed or there were multiple votes by one person (one in NC seems to have voted 40 times). Its worth looking at weather ballot harvesting should be banned in California but its unlikely to be. Ballot harvesting I think is illegal in NC.
Gee, isn't is amazing that wise Republicans, so intent on eliminating vote fraud, never passed laws that controlled absentee ballots?

The answer is fairly obvious - screwing with absentee ballots is their own favourite method of ensuring elections return the "right result".
 
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I find it hard to believe millions of people would hand their ballot to some randomer who turns up at their door, unless they have a screw loose.
 
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I find it hard to believe millions of people would hand their ballot to some randomer who turns up at their door, unless they have a screw loose.
Seems they did this in CA.

Talking of in excess of 250,000.

This is why elections races called for GOP suddenly turned as more and more votes appeared after election day had finished.
 

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Seems they did this in CA.

Talking of in excess of 250,000.

This is why elections races called for GOP suddenly turned as more and more votes appeared after election day had finished.
Shows Trump was right about voter fraud.
 
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SCOTUS refusing to hear appeal of NC gerrymandering case. Rick Hasen, the voting rights analyst, believes SCOTUS almost certainly will hear the case eventually. 4 justices would need to agree to hear it for it to be heard.

Breaking: Supreme Court Declines to Hear Austin, Texas Low Campaign Contributions Case, Takes No Action on North Carolina Gerrymandering Petition | Election Law Blog
I think that SC will get asked to decide on voting rights and it will be applicable to ALL states.

Dems claiming NC9 was fraudulent is good because they now admitting that Electoral fraud is happening, so what are they going to do about it.
 

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NC governor vetoes voter ID bill | TheHill

This goes against will of 55% of NC voters in the November referendum. GOP lose their veto proof majority when the newly elected assembly meets so they will have to rush through a veto override during lame duck session.
 

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SCOTUS heard a gerrymandering case today involving GOP gerrymandering (North Carolina) and Dem gerrymandering (Maryland) Gorsuch and Roberts appeared sceptical of intervening in the question, though Kavanaugh appeared more sympathetic as did Elena Kagan.

Supreme Court divided on solution for heavily gerrymandered districts
Ugh. Gorsuch reminds me of the type of intentionally unmotivated, unimaginative, and utterly useless Irish official with the "Sure it''ll be grand/Don't worry about a thing/What do you expect me to do about it" attitude and Bruce Hornsby's critical ballad "The way it is".

It's not as if many state courts haven't fixed the problem at state levels including Pennsylvania recently.

Kagan seems keen to be useful and productive in upholding democracy given her mandate by solving a longstanding intentional interference with the fundamental individual and collective human right of citizens to elect their own chosen representatives.

“We might pluck a number out of the air,” said Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, who appeared skeptical of efforts to find a universal solution. He suggested states might tackle the matter on their own.

Yet Justice Elena Kagan said the problem won’t heal itself if left to the political vagaries of the states.

“Justice Gorsuch’s attempts to save what’s so dramatically wrong here, which is the court leaving this all to professional politicians who have an interest in districting according to their own partisan interests, seems to fail,” Justice Kagan said.
Kavanaugh's sympathy shouldn't be unexpected given he's of a GOP political family and a born and bred current resident of Maryland. Maryland is a solid blue state with gerrymandering and thus one of the cases before him. I hope it translates into him fixing this problem that's plagued the nation since its beginning and getting worse.
 
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