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Remember the Florida referendum that passed and was supposed to legalise voting rights for felons?

The GOP legislature has watered it down. Now, in order to regain voting rights, felons will have to pay all court ordered fines and restitution, and will have to do so before they complete their sentence.
 

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Senate Majority leader McConnell blocks 2 election security bills. One would have required use of paper ballots. A second would have required candidates to report offers of help from foreign govts to the FBI. Accuses his critics in media of "modern day McCarthyism" and "gaslighting".


Also reports today that the Republicans in Wisconsin may try another gerrymander by asking the Wisconsin Supreme Court to overturn a 54 year old ruling that the assembly can't redistrict Congressional districts by using a joint session to get around the governors veto. Wisconsin is one of the most gerrymandered states (about as much as North Carolina), In one recent election, the Dems won 51% of the vote there but only 36% of the Congressional House seats. Most of the Wisconsin Supreme Court is Republican following years of Scott Walker's former governorship.
 

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Senate Majority leader McConnell blocks 2 election security bills. One would have required use of paper ballots. A second would have required candidates to report offers of help from foreign govts to the FBI. Accuses his critics in media of "modern day McCarthyism" and "gaslighting".


Also reports today that the Republicans in Wisconsin may try another gerrymander by asking the Wisconsin Supreme Court to overturn a 54 year old ruling that the assembly can't redistrict Congressional districts by using a joint session to get around the governors veto. Wisconsin is one of the most gerrymandered states (about as much as North Carolina), In one recent election, the Dems won 51% of the vote there but only 36% of the Congressional House seats. Most of the Wisconsin Supreme Court is Republican following years of Scott Walker's former governorship.
To be expected of Moscow Mitch who prefers permanent GOP undemocratic control subject to what he owes to foreign interests that assist him in that goal.
 

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Remember the Florida referendum that passed and was supposed to legalise voting rights for felons?

The GOP legislature has watered it down. Now, in order to regain voting rights, felons will have to pay all court ordered fines and restitution, and will have to do so before they complete their sentence.
Again, no surprise….
 

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Republican group led by former Wisconsin governor Scott Walker is headed to a federal court to challenge a new redistricting commission being set up by the Democratic governor and Secretary of state to draw electoral boundaries. It would have 4 Dems, 4 Republicans and 5 non-partisans. This is in spite of the fact that voters approved the new commission in a referendum last year. Its also in spite of the fact that a few weeks ago SCOTUS ruled that federal courts have no role in redistricting. However SCOTUS in that case dodged the question of the constitutionality of redistricting commissions, which Justice Kavanaugh has previously hinted may be unconstitutional. Peculiarly in that SCOTUS case (on the gerrymandering in NC and Maryland), Chief Justice Roberts cited the existence of redistricting commissions as an example of how the states can address gerrymandering issues themselves. He will no doubt be reminded of this if this case makes it to SCOTUS.

 

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Judge temporarily blocks implementation of NCs voter ID law for the March Democratic primary.


The people of North Carolina overwhelmingly voted for the voter ID law in a referendum. The Dems oppose Voter ID.
 

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Judge temporarily blocks implementation of NCs voter ID law for the March Democratic primary.


The people of North Carolina overwhelmingly voted for the voter ID law in a referendum. The Dems oppose Voter ID.
People also voted for gay marriage bans, black slavery and Jim Crow and such.

Putting civil rights up to a vote is like two wolves and a sheep voting for the supper menu. Voting is a right, not a mere liberty interest privilege.

Whilst I don't oppose voter ID laws entirely as a concept, they must be extremely carefully tailored to avoid the intended right-denying and table-tilting mischief they are well documented to do in most forms.

That is particularly true in NC if you've been paying attention to the news since the American Revolution.
 

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The GOP in Florida have been trying to water down the implementation of voting rights for felons,that passed in a referendum in 2016. A judge ruled a few days ago that felons must pay a charge in order to vote. That sounds like a poll tax, and poll taxes are explicitly banned under the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

 

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Republicans sending out fundraising mailers that look like Census forms. Comes as Census forms go out in a few weeks. Is this an attempt to confuse Democrat-leaning minority and youth voters?

The next Census is expected to add seats/EVs to states which have experienced a lot of immigration. That would normally help the Democrats. But if people think the GOP form is the real census, it could cause confusion.

 

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Redistricting commission constitutional amendment going through the Virginia legislature which is bicameral. Appears to have votes to pass.


A possible threat to redistricting commissions down the road is that Justice Brett Kavanaugh of SCOTUS has in the past expressed scepticism of their constitutionality.
 

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People also voted for gay marriage bans, black slavery and Jim Crow and such.

Putting civil rights up to a vote is like two wolves and a sheep voting for the supper menu. Voting is a right, not a mere liberty interest privilege.

Whilst I don't oppose voter ID laws entirely as a concept, they must be extremely carefully tailored to avoid the intended right-denying and table-tilting mischief they are well documented to do in most forms.

That is particularly true in NC if you've been paying attention to the news since the American Revolution.
You mean the kind of voter ID law where a government issued student card isn't accepted but a gun license is?

Nothing to see here.... move on.....
 

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Meanwhile in Texas

“Voter suppression, plain and simple”: Texas closed hundreds of polling sites in black, Latino areas.

The 50 counties that saw the highest growth in black and Latino population had 542 polling sites close between 2012 and 2018, while the 50 counties with the lowest black and Latino population growth saw just 34 closures. The closures came despite the population in the top 50 counties rising by 2.5 million while the 50 counties that had just 34 closures saw their population fall by 13,000.
 


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