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Wacky and often dangerous Russian propaganda

cyberianpan

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The Russian Investigative Committee is akin to Russia's FBI
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_Committee_of_Russia
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (Russian: Следственный комитет Российской Федерации) has since January 2011 been the main federal investigating authority in Russia. Its name (Sledstvennyi komitet) is usually abbreviated to Sledkom.
America NEVER landed on the moon, Russia's Vladimir Markin suggests | Daily Mail Online
A Russian official has has cast doubt on the first moon landings and demanded an investigation into what really happened after original Nasa footage of the event disappeared.

Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the Russian government's Investigative Committee, says he wants an inquiry after the video from 1969 and a piece of lunar rock, which was brought back to earth, went missing.

In an opinion piece in the Russian newspaper Izvestia,
French police could not handle 'normal' russian fans claims official | Daily Mail Online
A senior Russian police official has claimed his French counterparts were unable to handle Russia's "normal" football fans in Marseille this weekend because they are more used to policing "gay pride parades".

Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for Russia's equivalent of the FBI, made the comment on his verified Twitter account.
Effort to Expose Russia
But pro-Russian voices have become such a noisy and disruptive presence that both NATO and the European Union have set up special units to combat what they see as a growing threat not only to civil discourse but to the well-being of Europe’s democratic order and even to its security.

This “information war,” said Rastislav Kacer, a veteran diplomat who served as Slovakia’s ambassador to Washington and at NATO’s headquarters in Brussels, “is just part of a bigger struggle.” While not involving bloodshed, he added, it “is equally as dangerous as more conventional hostile action.”
6 Reasons You've Probably Read Russian Propaganda Today
Professor Fedchenko explained the reasoning behind Russia's next generation of propaganda: "Instead of ideology you use nonsense, and with all that noise people lose focus."
Russian propaganda machine 'worse than Soviet Union' - BBC News
As the West threatens further sanctions against Russia over Ukraine, critics are warning the message being pumped out by nationalist Russian media is reminiscent of the propaganda produced in the Soviet Union.
Of course the rezident useful idiots of p.ie will be out soon to back cuddly Uncle Vlad - but what do the rest of you think?

cyp
 


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Russian, American, NATO, China, it is all noise. The only foolishness is in assuming one side or the other is telling the truth about anything.
 

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Believe about 20% of what any given politician of any nationality says and none of their predictions and you'll be about right.

Mass media has made politics all about perception and perceptions can be managed. And usually are to varying degrees of success.

The only thing left to the common man is cynicism. Which remains free and untaxable.
 

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Russian propaganda manipulates that same sweet spot first worked by useful fools pioneer Noam Chomsky.

The malcontent and generally intellectually lazy are targeted with material crafted to make them believe they have superior and sensationalist insight and knowledge as regards the workings of the world they live in - the workings of the western state, media and capitalism, without feeling the need to put any assumptions to the test.

This type of propaganda makes people stupid. RT, PressTV and their ilk are more like the verbalisations of a cult than anything else I can think of. They allow people to be comfortable with their prejudices and their hatreds, and they undercut the ability to think in a critical manner.

These channels of communication portray everyone who disagrees with their promoted view as evil, and if you agree with it, then you must be on the side of good and right. This allows people to feel justified in their refusal to think or to ask difficult questions about one's self and others.

Of course, the Russian regime is essentially a totalitarian regime at present. And they support other bloody totalitarian regimes. This doesn't seem to bother the army of useful fools mobilised by these propaganda channels.
 

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There's a sliding scale.
Let us guess Putin is the worst human being EVER!

Saddam, WMD, 300K + dead

Tony Blair is rolled out to attack Corbyn.

There's no hypocrisy like western hypocrisy.
 

dammit_im_mad

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Russian, American, NATO, China, it is all noise. The only foolishness is in assuming one side or the other is telling the truth about anything.
Then why did socky use this as his thread title?

Wacky and often dangerous Russian propaganda

Proof positive that socky has not taken his own advice, drank the kool aid of one side
and regurgitates their propaganda, whether semi seriously or not, on quite a regular basis.

One does not need to believe any propaganda to note the fact that there is a huge NATO action on Russia's borders right now or that the Aegis system is being installed into bulgaria, poland, romania and likely Georgia, (this is part of a first strike strategy)
Or that Victoria Nuland "midwifed" the new corrupt government of Ukraine
Or that the US spent 5 billion dollars on "democracy building" in Ukraine
Or that the media is hysterical in it's anti Russian bias

These are all just facts NOT propaganda socky :p

Of course both sides are liars, but one side is clearly the aggressor in the US / Russia relationship
and they are backing the russkis into a corner, all just for profits, putting us all in danger.

Relations and Comms are at an all time low between moscow and washington, at a time of great risk
What if the russkis decide to take the first strike threat seriously? What is their logical response?

I prefer your wacky sex threads. They are more fun!
Lay off the state dept kool aid! :p
 
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RasherHash

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Russian propaganda manipulates that same sweet spot first worked by useful fools pioneer Noam Chomsky.

The malcontent and generally intellectually lazy are targeted with material crafted to make them believe they have superior and sensationalist insight and knowledge as regards the workings of the world they live in - the workings of the western state, media and capitalism, without feeling the need to put any assumptions to the test.

This type of propaganda makes people stupid. RT, PressTV and their ilk are more like the verbalisations of a cult than anything else I can think of. They allow people to be comfortable with their prejudices and their hatreds, and they undercut the ability to think in a critical manner.

These channels of communication portray everyone who disagrees with their promoted view as evil, and if you agree with it, then you must be on the side of good and right. This allows people to feel justified in their refusal to think or to ask difficult questions about one's self and others.

Of course, the Russian regime is essentially a totalitarian regime at present. And they support other bloody totalitarian regimes. This doesn't seem to bother the army of useful fools mobilised by these propaganda channels.
And that's the truth roc_ cause zionazis don't lie.

Lol ;)
 

dammit_im_mad

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Russian propaganda manipulates that same sweet spot first worked by useful fools pioneer Noam Chomsky.

The malcontent and generally intellectually lazy are targeted with material crafted to make them believe they have superior and sensationalist insight and knowledge as regards the workings of the world they live in - the workings of the western state, media and capitalism, without feeling the need to put any assumptions to the test.

This type of propaganda makes people stupid. RT, PressTV and their ilk are more like the verbalisations of a cult than anything else I can think of. They allow people to be comfortable with their prejudices and their hatreds, and they undercut the ability to think in a critical manner.

These channels of communication portray everyone who disagrees with their promoted view as evil, and if you agree with it, then you must be on the side of good and right. This allows people to feel justified in their refusal to think or to ask difficult questions about one's self and others.

Of course, the Russian regime is essentially a totalitarian regime at present. And they support other bloody totalitarian regimes. This doesn't seem to bother the army of useful fools mobilised by these propaganda channels.
Here's how this post was created: :p

First, a huge mass of state department guff was gobbled down whole

Then this happened

 

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There's a sliding scale.
Russia at the top for sure. RT is mental and it is one of the more normal media outlets.
 

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Russia like the UK and to a lesser degree the US is a dangerous state. It suffered a defeat in the Cold war. And has lost an empire in Eastern europe.
Reminds me a bit of Germany post WW1. The UK is the same- lost an empire- and is struggling to find a new place in the world.
What is the best way to deal with this type of situation? Well the Allies made a few mistakes post WW1 in regard to Germany. To avoid the Holocaust they should have negoatiated with Hitler a bit more in my opinion- to have avoided the Gypsy and Jewish holocaust.
Possibly called an early ceasefire in 1941 and tried to get the German army to withdraw from France.
The point I am making is it is vital to keep talking to Mr Putin, and the Russian government. Even in the midst of a hot war.
 

dammit_im_mad

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Russia at the top for sure. RT is mental and it is one of the more normal media outlets.
Russia like the UK and to a lesser degree the US is a dangerous state. It suffered a defeat in the Cold war. And has lost an empire in Eastern europe.
Reminds me a bit of Germany post WW1. The UK is the same- lost an empire- and is struggling to find a new place in the world.
What is the best way to deal with this type of situation? Well the Allies made a few mistakes post WW1 in regard to Germany. To avoid the Holocaust they should have negoatiated with Hitler a bit more in my opinion- to have avoided the Gypsy and Jewish holocaust.
Possibly called an early ceasefire in 1941 and tried to get the German army to withdraw from France.
The point I am making is it is vital to keep talking to Mr Putin, and the Russian government. Even in the midst of a hot war.
More kool aid drinkers! :roll:

Ignoring the facts staring them in the face.

Facts like this
NATO allies launch largest military exercise since end of Cold War in clear message to Russia | Europe | News | The Independent

Then of course there's Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine coup, Honduras, Supporting Al nusra in Syria, etc etc

and just for shíts and giggles, how about all this stuff:

Enforcing American Hegemony - A Timeline


It's clear to anyone with two working brain cells(!) who is not a US sycophant or paid acolyte
that some states are a LOT worse than others in their foreign policies

FYI The USSR is long dead
No further need for US puppet NATO, which was created as a bulwark against the warsaw pact forces.
 

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The evidence is that some of these hooligans were fighting in Eastern Ukraine and had military training. There are videos of them on nationalist websites.

The French press conference yesterday said hooligans turned up at the airport to leave France, we're refused entry, before toughies were called and they had to be let through.

It's partridge the Kremlin's psy-ops. It comes at s time when the National Assembly is voting to ask the govt to lift sanctions. The Les Republicans (formerly UMP) party is pushing hard on this as are the FN.
 

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It's interesting to see people blindly defend Russsia, kinda blithely stepping over the misinformation campaign, with a wink to " the ends justify the means"

cyp
 

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Considering the trouble caused by Russian nationalist thugs in France, and the bláse attitude of prominent russian officials to that that behaviour and the threat they pose to ordinary decent fans who have travelled to Fance, is it not time that Fifa abandoned the madcap idea that Russia is a suitable venue to host the 2018 World Cup.

If they do not then it is about time that the representatives of football players and of football fans take matters into their own hands and initiate a boycott of the enterprise. There is no way that Fifa can gaurantee the safety of fans and players travelling to Russia in 2018.



This particular Football fan has the right idea.

BBC Radio commentator Alan Green to boycott Russia World Cup 2018

The Northern Irishman has commentated at every major tournament in the last 30 years, but "under no circumstances" will he be travelling to Russia in two years' time.
"I sat down with the controller of 5 live a few months ago to discuss a new contract and I think he was taken aback when I said, 'Look, under no circumstances do I want to do the World Cup in Russia in two years time'.
 

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How many on here would prefer to see Russia rather than Turkey join the EU?
Turkey and Russia both have a long way to go to achieve basic western standards of democracy. press freedom and personal freedom which that are neccessary for EU membership. A lot of work needs to be done also in combating political, religious and financial corruption in those countries before any request for EU membership is considered. It should be mandatory that the Russian and Turkish markets were to be exposed to EU levels of freedom for a decade or two in preparation for full accession.
 

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Thats a right old dogs breakfast of different links youve assembled, cYp - slow night?

(1) The moon landings were faked - a US propaganda success. Seems the Russians swallowed it. The origins of the conspiracy theory lie in the States, where up to 20% of Americans believe it as opposed to 28% of Russians.

(2) Daily Mail quotes a tweet from a Russian policeman making a clumsy joke. Have you seen the DM recently? All its front page stories in the online edition come from Reddit. They're too scared to rip off 4-Chan.

(3)- (6) News outlets complain Russian TV etc is being watched by non-Russians. Well theres always Fox to restore some balance. And BBC World Service - wholly run by M16 :)

Now admit it - you were just bored. Here you go, dolling

 


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