Walmart to enter ireland ?

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odie1kanobe said:
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Drogpolitician said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
Agree 100% - Provided they offer real competition and their prices mirrors that in the UK/NI - and not the Tesco/Dunnes version where goods can be up to 150% more expensive in the ROI then in NI

My sentiments exactly.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
They will be more welcome if they are going to offer something radically different, which is what the marketplace needs.
 


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odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
Drogpolitician said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
Agree 100% - Provided they offer real competition and their prices mirrors that in the UK/NI - and not the Tesco/Dunnes version where goods can be up to 150% more expensive in the ROI then in NI

My sentiments exactly.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Why not Aldi and Lidl did it and look at how successful they have become.
 

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Victor Meldrew said:
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Competition my A$$. They'll just drive out competition and leave us with less choice. Can we not preserve any element of our identity?
By that logic American consumers have less choice and dearer goods. I think not! :?
 

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The Crook said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
Naive: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment

Your point is or is this where you stopped in the dictionary!
 

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Aldi/Lidl prices have crept up in the last few months as they have become more established. Like Tesco they are also more expensive here for the same items then in the UK.
 

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FrankSpeaks said:
Victor Meldrew said:
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Competition my A$$. They'll just drive out competition and leave us with less choice. Can we not preserve any element of our identity?
By that logic American consumers have less choice and dearer goods. I think not! :?
They also have a minimum wage of €7.15 which is about €4.40

Workers expected to earn tips have an even lower minimum wage.
 

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The Crook said:
FrankSpeaks said:
[quote="Victor Meldrew":1eku709t]
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Competition my A$$. They'll just drive out competition and leave us with less choice. Can we not preserve any element of our identity?
By that logic American consumers have less choice and dearer goods. I think not! :?
They also have a minimum wage of €7.15 which is about €4.40

Workers expected to earn tips have an even lower minimum wage.[/quote:1eku709t]

And don't you have to pay tax on that in the US too? I'm not an expert - but I never paid any tax while on minimum wage in Ireland.
 

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Hi guys,

As far as I know ASDA was bought up by WAL-MART in the late 1990's so they are part of the WAL-MART family. I would therefore reckon that the ASDA-branded supermarkets will be coming to Ireland which would be great as ASDA have ongoing price wars with TESCO in the UK.
 

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Grant Dole said:
Hi guys,

As far as I know ASDA was bought up by WAL-MART in the late 1990's so they are part of the WAL-MART family. I would therefore reckon that the ASDA-branded supermarkets will be coming to Ireland which would be great as ASDA have ongoing price wars with TESCO in the UK.
What makes you think that Price war would migrate to this jurisdiction?

All the evidence so far suggests that competition here is a bloody joke and price fixing and cartelism is the order of the day.
 

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Grant Dole said:
Hi guys,

As far as I know ASDA was bought up by WAL-MART in the late 1990's so they are part of the WAL-MART family. I would therefore reckon that the ASDA-branded supermarkets will be coming to Ireland which would be great as ASDA have ongoing price wars with TESCO in the UK.
Are you sure you're a socialist!

Wal-mart should be resisted trying to open up anywhere. They pay terribly and fire staff for bogus reasons for trying to unionise. They also use their huge financial muscle and economies of scale to shut down family run businesses.
 
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FrankSpeaks said:
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
Drogpolitician said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
Agree 100% - Provided they offer real competition and their prices mirrors that in the UK/NI - and not the Tesco/Dunnes version where goods can be up to 150% more expensive in the ROI then in NI

My sentiments exactly.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Why not Aldi and Lidl did it and look at how successful they have become.
Cost of entry would be prohibitive. ROI is equivalent to a largeish city in Population with high distribution costs.

There are not enough sites to gain a critical mass and Aldi / Lidl stores go on low staff count and low add ons.

Only method of entry is to buy someone who has existing infrastructure in place and bolt on hence why Dunnes / SuperQuinn would fit.
 
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FrankSpeaks said:
Victor Meldrew said:
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Competition my A$$. They'll just drive out competition and leave us with less choice. Can we not preserve any element of our identity?
By that logic American consumers have less choice and dearer goods. I think not! :?
After Walmart they do as Walmart wil shuts most competing businesses and then if its not profitable enough they just shut the store and decamp elsewhere.

Walmart are not a nice company in the US.
 
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Grant Dole said:
Hi guys,

As far as I know ASDA was bought up by WAL-MART in the late 1990's so they are part of the WAL-MART family. I would therefore reckon that the ASDA-branded supermarkets will be coming to Ireland which would be great as ASDA have ongoing price wars with TESCO in the UK.
For someone who spouts the doctrine you do perhaps you should find out about how Walmart welcomes any form of Union.
 

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I'd like Sainsburys to open within the Republic, really like the range of products they sell which are near impossible to get in most of the supermarkets in Ireland.

But to open a public discussion, havnt we not not enough supermarkets as it stands, granted not to the extent of Tesco towns like in the UK.

It would be far better if the supermarkets we already have compete for business rather than the policy they appear to engage of matching prices.
 

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Wal Mart (ASDA) on their way to Ireland - I'm delighted to hear it. Tesco have been milking it since they set up here, at last someone will now put it up to them. :D
 
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grainne whale said:
Wal Mart (ASDA) on their way to Ireland - I'm delighted to hear it. Tesco have been milking it since they set up here, at last someone will now put it up to them. :D
Oh How I love people who think retailers will reduce their margins.
 

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odie1kanobe said:
grainne whale said:
Wal Mart (ASDA) on their way to Ireland - I'm delighted to hear it. Tesco have been milking it since they set up here, at last someone will now put it up to them. :D
Oh How I love people who think retailers will reduce their margins.
Something we can resolutely agree on.

Anyone who thinks ASDA/Walmart coming here are going to put it up to Tesco will be in for a short sharp shock to the wallet.
 

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odie1kanobe said:
grainne whale said:
Wal Mart (ASDA) on their way to Ireland - I'm delighted to hear it. Tesco have been milking it since they set up here, at last someone will now put it up to them. :D
Oh How I love people who think retailers will reduce their margins.
You can't blame the masses for their ignorance, most people have been so deeply penetrated by capitalist ideology that they believe huge multinatinals enjoy competing with eachother and hate monopolies.
 

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Victor Meldrew said:
odie1kanobe said:
FrankSpeaks said:
I would welcome Walmart in Ireland, competition is good for consumers.
They are not going to set up from scratch and they are not going to offer something radically different from the marketplace as that will be reflected in the value of the retailer they purchase.
Competition my A$$. They'll just drive out competition and leave us with less choice. Can we not preserve any element of our identity?

Our identity? You mean Tesco, Debenhams, Lidl etc?
 
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The Crook said:
odie1kanobe said:
[quote="grainne whale":dx3xpq6r]Wal Mart (ASDA) on their way to Ireland - I'm delighted to hear it. Tesco have been milking it since they set up here, at last someone will now put it up to them. :D
Oh How I love people who think retailers will reduce their margins.
You can't blame the masses for their ignorance, most people have been so deeply penetrated by capitalist ideology that they believe huge multinatinals enjoy competing with eachother and hate monopolies.[/quote:dx3xpq6r]

Or perhaps in our "ignorance" we cheesed off with being fleeced left right & centre and would welcome any form of competition in the retail sector. Maybe you as the "elite" can show us our error as to why we should be happy with the status quo? :roll:

Yes it would be cost prohibitive to start from scratch so buying either Dunnes/Superquinn is really the only option, (more likely Superquinn - the chance of a fast profit for the owners etc). Tesco did it taking over Quinsworth who previously took over 5 Star. Of course ASDA would only move in here if there is a chance of making good profit margins - everyone know's that - but the arguement that is being made is if their entry into the market here leads to REAL competition then bring it on.
 


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