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I like how Bolton objecting to the protectors of the guys behind 9/11 getting a trip to Camp David the week before 9/11 was the straw that broke the camel's back. That was just too much.
 

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Bolton is so wierdly eccentric it's hard to believe he is allowed in front of the cameras. Trump's anti war stance will appeal to his base.

I hope Trump brings in Democrat Tulsi Gabbard in his next administration.
 

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Another person's career destroyed by going to work and be associated with Dodgy Donnie who can't stand criticism - a 2 year old child is what he is
 

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I like how Bolton objecting to the protectors of the guys behind 9/11 getting a trip to Camp David the week before 9/11 was the straw that broke the camel's back. That was just too much.
Sometimes you have to talk to bad people on the other side if you are looking for some kind of peaceful solution at some stage down the line. This is how the resolution of all conflicts start.

Not surprised Bolton would be against this , if he had his way America would be fighting wars in every part of the world indefinitely

Always seemed a strange pick for isolationist Trump who is looking to get the US out of as many conflicts as he can.
 

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The optics were appalling. It's repugnant to have planned to invite them to Camp David in September. Trump's foreign policy hasn't actually been awful, but he has a repeated habit of rewarding despots before they've delivered anything.

Bolton's objectively awful by pretty much any standard, but he was in the right here. Stopped clocks and all that.
 

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The optics were appalling. It's repugnant to have planned to invite them to Camp David in September. Trump's foreign policy hasn't actually been awful, but he has a repeated habit of rewarding despots before they've delivered anything.

Bolton's objectively awful by pretty much any standard, but he was in the right here. Stopped clocks and all that.
Trumps biggest problem in these situation is that his administration is still leaking like a sieve.

He had to make it public because he knew it would leak.

The British & Irish Governments were in secret talks with the IRA over a long period of time during their campaign and no word ever got out.

Trump can't go for a p!ss in the white house without it been breaking news on CNN a few minutes later.
 

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I don't understand do you mean you think the plan was to secretly bring the TALIBAN to Camp David? Yeah that's something that could have been kept under wraps. I'm amazed that got out.
 

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I don't understand do you mean you think the plan was to secretly bring the TALIBAN to Camp David? Yeah that's something that could have been kept under wraps. I'm amazed that got out.
They don't actually advertise that they are the Taliban or wear big signs on themselves.

Lots of people go in and out of camp David every month.
 

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Trumps biggest problem in these situation is that his administration is still leaking like a sieve.

He had to make it public because he knew it would leak.

The British & Irish Governments were in secret talks with the IRA over a long period of time during their campaign and no word ever got out.

Trump can't go for a p!ss in the white house without it been breaking news on CNN a few minutes later.

LOL 😁


 

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Sometimes you have to talk to bad people on the other side if you are looking for some kind of peaceful solution at some stage down the line. This is how the resolution of all conflicts start.

Not surprised Bolton would be against this , if he had his way America would be fighting wars in every part of the world indefinitely

Always seemed a strange pick for isolationist Trump who is looking to get the US out of as many conflicts as he can.
His selection was most likely influenced by Jared kushner.

Bolton is one of the foremost Israel firsters in Washington
 

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So...so secretly moving taliban members through the US. In September. Mmm. Great idea. I mean what could go wrong?
 

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The optics were appalling. It's repugnant to have planned to invite them to Camp David in September. Trump's foreign policy hasn't actually been awful, but he has a repeated habit of rewarding despots before they've delivered anything.

Bolton's objectively awful by pretty much any standard, but he was in the right here. Stopped clocks and all that.
Trump thinks everything in politics is a New Jersey hotel deal or bargaining for a cheap carpet in Marrakesh. You denigrate what's on offer, then you butter them up, you play nice, you back off at the last second, you feign a walk off and return to strike the deal. It's intriguing, often toe-curling to behold and novel. Trump's thin skin got to him again. He can't manage dissent.
 

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...He had to make it public because he knew it would leak. ...
No argument that it's Niagara in there and classified discussions might as well be hosted by Newstalk 106, but Trump likes to control the narrative.

To Trump's preference, you don't resign on him...he fires you. That way he looks in charge of the events and can spin it better regarding any fallout. It also serves his image from The Apprentice show that many in his fan base believe and expect.

Bolton gave him the window of opportunity to do that. Bolton should have resigned before Trump grabbed the optics from him.
 
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He should never have been there in the first place....but it shows how dangerous and dysfunctional trumps government is.
 

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If Trump makes 2020 the year of bringing troops home, he'll win again.
It will be a dubious victory if the same Islamic terrorists who facilitated Al Qaeda and 9/11 are back in power in Kabul, with a accompanying blood-bath of women and people who were American allies.

The most recent falling out with Bolton was over having Taliban terrorists as guests of the American taxpayer almost 18 years to the day since 9/11. Only the death of a US serviceman prevented Trump going through with that.

Now it looks as if his whole Afghanistan policy has collapsed - his options are to let the Taliban win, or keeps American troops there to slog it out. Firing Bolton does not fix the problem.
 

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Bolton was on the ledge since he was sidelined from the North Korea negotiations, and Trump got cold feet over attacking Iran - an attack Bolton craved.

Mike Pompeo may be feeling a cold wind at his back, since he agreed with Bolton on a lot of his positions.

Bolton's replacement ... well, Tucker Carlson must be the front runner. He ticks all the boxes, especially the one about being a Fox News shock jock. :rolleyes:
 


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