Was Eamon Gilmore ever in the official IRA?

Big Bobo

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I know he spent time with the stickies but did he ever have an involvement with their militant wing? And was Gilmore a defender of North Korea in the 80s? The Workers Party were rumoured to be in receipt of money from the People's Republic of North Korea although it was most likely lies from the bourgeoise media

Any help from the older posters would be appreciated
 


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I know he spent time with the stickies but did he ever have an involvement with their militant wing? And was Gilmore a defender of North Korea in the 80s? The Workers Party were rumoured to be in receipt of money from the People's Republic of North Korea although it was most likely lies from the bourgeoise media

Any help from the older posters would be appreciated
Mirabile dictu! An intelligent and pertinent post from Big Bobo!
 

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I know he spent time with the stickies but did he ever have an involvement with their militant wing? And was Gilmore a defender of North Korea in the 80s? The Workers Party were rumoured to be in receipt of money from the People's Republic of North Korea although it was most likely lies from the bourgeoise media

Any help from the older posters would be appreciated

I doubt Gilmore was involved in the Official IRA.

As for North Korea, it was reported in the 1980s that Tomas McGiolla and some others visited there on at least one occasion, whether they got money is another matter.


Currently Sean Garland is fighting extradition to the US on charges that he engaged in counterfeiting US dollars with the North Koreans.
 
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On mature reflection I believe that you are indeed correct.
It was 1983 when the Gardai raided and it was $5 notes
 
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I doubt it very much.

It's weird that the Stickies still have a presence in parts of Belfast and Derry.

I know a young lad who got a clatter about a year back for chanting "this old man he played six, up the provos f**k the sticks" on his way home from a night out lol

The OIRA may not be active but they are still there.

And let's not forget they never handed over any weaponry either.
 

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Does it matter? We elect Shinners dont we
 

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Apparently he was known as 'Eamon Killmore' due to his prowess with an AK 47 . Took out a lot of 'scarecrows in the woods' if you know what i mean . Fought the good fight but had to give it all up for love ,Ive heard theyre making a movie .They are calling it 'Che.....amon '
 

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I remember watching Children in Need (when I was a nipper..i hasten to add) and somebody got under the BBC radar by making a pledge of money "if somebody could come down to the Dunville Park and clear up all the sticks" which Rose Neill dutifully read out.
 

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I doubt it very much.

It's weird that the Stickies still have a presence in parts of Belfast and Derry.

I know a young lad who got a clatter about a year back for chanting "this old man he played six, up the provos f**k the sticks" on his way home from a night out lol

The OIRA may not be active but they are still there.

And let's not forget they never handed over any weaponry either.
Literally a couple of old Stalinist fools. I gather there a political group in Newry --the 'Official Republican Movement'. Stickies that split from the Workers' Party in (?) 1997, mostly O. IRA.

By and large, the O. IRA of the split (basically, a Marxist minority of the IRA that included many senior figures of the Dublin leadership), which had members in Derry, Belfast and Newry and perhaps support in South Kerry, Cork, Wicklow and Dublin amongst Sinn Féin members there, became the INLA. What was left over comprised a few local toughs in places like the Lower Falls Road that protected Workers' Party-owned bars and interests, not an "army" (even the Divis flats complex became known as "the Planet of the IRPS", a play on the Irish Republican Socialist Party).

In the late 1980s-early 1990s the INLA had split into numerous factions and that in the Lower Falls Road was called, the "IPLO" (I think you can guess the name). This tiny group of a few dozen, perhaps a hundred was wiped out by the IRA in 1992: numerous punishment beatings were administered and whole families exiled. One of their leaders was killed. Many were allowed join the IRA --so in the case, the IRA forcibly absorbed the Officials formerly led by Billy McMillan all those years ago.

Several ex-Officials have drifted into crime and Mickey Brady (a Sinn Féin MLA for the South Down constituency) was in fact a Newry member of the Workers' Party. There really are very few of them left.
 

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Stickies actually printed the old Irish red/orange fivers. Dublin was awash with them. You could buy them for half their face value. This allowed the stickies fund a huge campaign in the 1985 local elections which was the effective launch of the careers of Rabbitte, Gilmore et al.

Gilmore also wrote an article for an international journal around that time looking forward to the 'century of collectivism' and extolling the virtues of the neo Stalinist regimes.

Anyone who could find a copy of that would be most welcome to share it ;)
 

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I believe Mubarak is looking for some new shills to shore him up after FF get their comeuppance. That will give a few people in Ireland something to do after the election.
 

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Has Gilmore ever address the issue at all?
He hasn't the guts but he has to give some answers inside the next 3 weeks.
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I thought he went from USI to the Trade Union movement along with Pat Rabitte. Regarding membership of the IRA I would think the presumption of innocence applies.
 

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I thought he went from USI to the Trade Union movement along with Pat Rabitte. Regarding membership of the IRA I would think the presumption of innocence applies.

The infiltration of the student unions and the ITGWU was under the control of the OIRA as was OSF in general.

Even they were not OIRA Volunteers they were acting under the control of the OIRA Army Council.
 
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I missed out on all this excitment. Walking down to Dolphin's Barn iva Branch Meeting night was my social time. Learning about the bloody French Revolution everytime our mad Education fella got going, hearing for the first time that we were slaves to capitalism, learning about Marx. Eoghan Harris demanding that the whole of the west of Ireland be put under forestation. He was always like a demon, hated when he was teaching. Great laughs with poor Eric Byrne being roared at by the scruffs for wearing suits and a tie. Hearing Proinsias speaking for the first time and thinking "jaysus, he has a stutter". Them all looking at me because I had a bit of an English accent then, and mutters of "west brit" when I argued until I threw a chair at the ass that said it. Mcgiolla having us in stitches telling us stories of internment. De Rossa, only 17 I think when he was interned being hauled out of the queue being let out to go to mass on Sunday and beaten up because he was a declared atheist. He just wanted a chance to run. And next door to our branch office was a Muslim Centre, so you can imagine. These young wans all covered in black coming up the stairs looking all full of Eastern Promise and saying "is this the shaggin' Muslim place missus, I can't drag this f..ing pushchair much further".

Yep. Being a stickie was very dangerous. Especially as I said when I didn't even know I was one.
 

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:)


Very good Lazarus!

(Don't confuse my, eh, differences with Gilmore and Rabbitte, with dislike for real stickies past or present ;)
 

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